semi cheap guns

[speakrsrfun]

Originally Posted by snakeeater

Dude, Maruis in canadian dollars are like $240... Their just marked up alot on Canadian sites

Ahhhh'yah'OK, if you can find me a Mauri for $240CDN new anywhere in Canada you'd be my savior... listed or not. Due to the fact your not age verified just shows that you don't have the purchase knowledge as of late, hell $5 parts are being imported and cost 4X the initial USD price for you to purchase here.

As for a good starting gun at a decent price, the JG G608 (G36C) is a great AEG. The sad reality is even A&A are chargeing an arm and leg for imports, Glock 26's for $275CDN when they are under $100usd new c'mon. Lining thier pockets, but are licenced to do so it seems, Peace and keep well.


Speaks

[Moderate]

I think you misunderstood what he was saying:

Their just marked up alot on Canadian sites

Meaning that a Marui sold in the U.S. or outside of Canada in Canadian funds is $240 (I would think more though) and when imported into Canada, retailers mark up the prices to our $500+ lineup of AEG's.

[mcguyver]

You guys don't understand.

When you import an item, you pay duty on that item's value (ie. the price you paid for it). For businesses importing plastic goods from Asia (Taiwan, etc.) that duty it 30%, plus you pay brokerage (7%), GST (7% of the total), and freight. That means that a $240 gun adds $80 in duty, $17 brokerage and $24 GST for a total of $361.

If it costs $20 freight to get the gun to you, then you are looking at $381 just to get the gun into Canada. For years this it what it cost, and guys were selling these guns for $440. Would you pay $1250 to get a license, another $2500 minimum to set up a registered company, another $2500/year in accounting fees, just to make $60 per gun?

Like I said, you guys have no clue. So you should really STFU!!!

[Moderate]

Originally Posted by Greylocks

Before you talk about markup, you really should read about the costs breakdown that were done. Some markup exists, yes, but it's not as high as you think.

You can inform yourself or do the math; exchange rates between US and Canadian dollars. Shipping costs. License costs. Import fees. Taxes. And then some form of profit (I sure as hell would not do this for free).

A Marui at US prices (I've seen them too) of about $250 is far from $250cdn by the time it gets into Canada. All of that does matter. It's not a high volume business either. If airsoft was more open legally speaking, and importation fees were different, the prices here would match US prices pretty much dollar for dollar.

I know why the prices are higher, I was just saying that Speaks didn't understand that SnakeEater was saying the exact same thing as Speaks was replying to SnakeEater...uh...yeah.

[Aquamarine]

Alot of people say "oh, markup is stupid! i can bring in a gun for like $120 before shipping and itll be like $140 after shipping!" Right.. sure you can... well if you don't mind 3 months shipping time, then only tack on another $40 for a rifle in a box, or another $80 for express shipping. Also let's talk about where you're getting it from too...

[Ryan Smith]

Ok well if arguing is done lol i have a question........group orders........who does em? The reviews of the jg m-16 are huge and i wouldn't mind getting my hands on one to check it out; as well, i have a few friends with shallow pockets looking to get into airsoft.

Ryan,
thanks

ps. avoid the "you need to reasearch or read more" reply. I have read to much and may have overlooked group orders of they are located somewhere on this site.

[medhatboy]

As the guys at www.BuyAirsoft.ca they handle the JG's.

[shadow_matter]

The key here is, research, research, research. I would suggest buying used. If the previous owner took care of it, you're getting a quality weapon for 70-90% of the price of a new one, just because of cosmetic damage. Also, sellers usually cram extra mags and batteries into the packages as well. So you'll get everything you need to start up minus a good pair of paintball goggles and a vest, plate carrier, or chest rig of some sort. Be patient, the season is just starting up and people are cleaning out their closets from winter, a deal will show up. That's how I got my Sig =)

[surebet]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

LOL There's NOTHING wrong with that. What the hell do you think Foxden is, or the LZ, or Muskoka? It's somebody's 'back forty'.

And safety glasses, what some people call "shop glasses" are often SUPERIOR to paintball goggles.

Christ, the shit that passes as "common knowledge" and "common sense" on here is fucking disgusting.

Snakeeater, buy whatever you want but buy cheap and buy twice.

I own a pair of Oakley M Frames in Heater size. At face value, these should be insanely good for airsoft, but they aren't.

The lens itself is near indestructible, I only had to replace one for esthetic considerations after a substantial amount of blunt face trauma to the face in the form of a beer bottle. I also had a lot of debris hit me while cycling.

I trust these with my eyes, but only if I can be sure what ever will hit me will hit me straight on. Theses glasses arent sealed, and enough force will knock them off. That's why I never used them for airsoft.

Damn it, 50$ will buy you a nice pair of googles or a paintball mask. First thing I learned way back in my paintball days was eye protection. I was thought to buiy a quality mask before anything else.

[Bullpup Dog]

Originally Posted by surebet

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Shop glasses? If you're too fucking cheap to protect your eyes, stay the fuck away from airsoft.

an average gun for indoor and all off-the-shelf guns shoot at around 300-330 fps. good safety rated glasses will protect you from any shot that those can put out.

[The Saint]

Please stop bumping old thread with inaccurate information. FYI, all legit fields require you to have proper paintball glasses or ballistics goggles. If you don't have them, you can't play with the rest of the community, it's as simple as that.

[Bullpup Dog]

thats not true. maybe in the area of canada that you have played. not everything is the same nation wide (as far as this goes). its a big country

[Moz]

It should be policy of airsoft fields to make players sign waivers regarding eye injuries and make it game rules that only shots above the nose count.

This would clear out the idiots pretty quick.

[KoolAidMan]

Originally Posted by Moz

It should be policy of airsoft fields to make players sign waivers regarding eye injuries and make it game rules that only shots above the nose count.

This would clear out the idiots pretty quick.

I'm up for that:kill:

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by Bullpup Dog

thats not true. maybe in the area of canada that you have played. not everything is the same nation wide (as far as this goes). its a big country

You're telling me there are legitimate airsoft/paintball fields in Canada where they'll let you run around with shop glasses? It's not an issue of whether shop glasses can take the punishment, it's an issue of the field's insurance coverage.