Systema Turbo Gearbox

TigerClaws · November 3rd, 2007, 22:29

Blackspeed, I'vew put a M120 spring it it and my systema turbo motor splitted my pinion gear in half... Then fixed it and went to a game and broke the motor's inside magnet in half. Got sick of it and threw in a G&P Magnum Torque in the gun, kept same ROF but i broke a pinion gear again ... So now i understood,...., leave it to 345 fps about because you 30rds/sec will not last for too long i swear .... 1 game and its over in smoke .... M110 you might last a bit longer but dont risk it ... Maybe with a SP90 Prometheus spring will keep its strenght longer then systema springs ... thats my next move but im not going over the M100 anymore,.... Paid the price now and i know exactly where the point of breakout and pressure is .... on the pinion gear ....

Skruface · November 4th, 2007, 11:06

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Originally Posted by TigerClaws

Maybe with a SP90 Prometheus spring will keep its strenght longer then systema springs ... thats my next move but im not going over the M100 anymore,.... Paid the price now and i know exactly where the point of breakout and pressure is .... on the pinion gear ....

You do know that Systema has a replacement pinion gear that's harder than the normal Turbo motor pinion gear, right?

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=21700

TigerClaws · November 4th, 2007, 15:24

yeah and i broke that one .... lol serious man ...

ILLusion · November 4th, 2007, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaws

Blackspeed, I'vew put a M120 spring it it and my systema turbo motor splitted my pinion gear in half... Then fixed it and went to a game and broke the motor's inside magnet in half. Got sick of it and threw in a G&P Magnum Torque in the gun, kept same ROF but i broke a pinion gear again ... So now i understood,...., leave it to 345 fps about because you 30rds/sec will not last for too long i swear .... 1 game and its over in smoke .... M110 you might last a bit longer but dont risk it ... Maybe with a SP90 Prometheus spring will keep its strenght longer then systema springs ... thats my next move but im not going over the M100 anymore,.... Paid the price now and i know exactly where the point of breakout and pressure is .... on the pinion gear ....

You may end up stripping your piston and/or sector gear if you go with a weaker spring because the piston won't return the stroke fast enough.

If you decide to go this route, I highly recommend you do a short-stroke modification to protect the internals.

TigerClaws · November 4th, 2007, 15:45

well SP90 promo and M100 systema are probably about the same strenght no ?

TigerClaws · November 4th, 2007, 15:45

or should i get a SP100 ?

TigerClaws · November 4th, 2007, 15:47

Oh Illusion thanks for lighing me, i did see that the piston teeths at the back are pretty much worn out but i didnt think about that ,..., thanks !!
Good thing i have another one in stock :P

ILLusion · November 4th, 2007, 15:52

No, the Prometheus MS90SP and the Systema M100 springs are significantly different.

http://airsoftcanada.com/SpringChart.html

Short-stroke modification... look it up. I highly recommend you perform it.

TigerClaws · November 4th, 2007, 15:55

Right so i guess ill stick with M100 :P

StillAlive · November 5th, 2007, 05:52

I had Systema turbo motor installed on my TMG36C (standard v3 gearbox).

At first ROF was insane and the gun misfeeded all the time. So i tamed it with Madbul M130 spring and a sector clip (it really helped with the feeding).

Right now i'm running it with Systema gearset (original rate) and 9.6v 3300mah battery and it's smoking... 410FPS + high ROF :duke:

And i'm able to use hicaps (short bursts but still).

BTW, stay away from HA C-MAGs they're just not fast enough.

TigerClaws · November 5th, 2007, 10:10

I have an A&K electronic Magbox and it doesnt skip 1 bb in full auto at 30 bb/sec so im very happy with that. But the only way to really get there is the gears ... motor doesnt really change much ... I've slipped a magnum torque instead of the systema turbo motor and i get same ROF so its all about the gears mostly i guess. But obviouly, i can make it up to 400 fps and do the machine gunner dance without ripping the something out of there ...
Anyway, i dont want to shoot 400fps since my team shoot mostly 400 and they have 1/2 the ROF i have, gotta keep a balance somewhere to make it fair ...

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November 4th, 2007, 15:52	#38
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	No, the Prometheus MS90SP and the Systema M100 springs are significantly different. http://airsoftcanada.com/SpringChart.html Short-stroke modification... look it up. I highly recommend you perform it. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

November 5th, 2007, 05:52	#40
StillAlive Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007	I had Systema turbo motor installed on my TMG36C (standard v3 gearbox). At first ROF was insane and the gun misfeeded all the time. So i tamed it with Madbul M130 spring and a sector clip (it really helped with the feeding). Right now i'm running it with Systema gearset (original rate) and 9.6v 3300mah battery and it's smoking... 410FPS + high ROF :duke: And i'm able to use hicaps (short bursts but still). BTW, stay away from HA C-MAGs they're just not fast enough. __________________ Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit!

November 3rd, 2007, 22:29	#31
TigerClaws Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St-Georges	Blackspeed, I'vew put a M120 spring it it and my systema turbo motor splitted my pinion gear in half... Then fixed it and went to a game and broke the motor's inside magnet in half. Got sick of it and threw in a G&P Magnum Torque in the gun, kept same ROF but i broke a pinion gear again ... So now i understood,...., leave it to 345 fps about because you 30rds/sec will not last for too long i swear .... 1 game and its over in smoke .... M110 you might last a bit longer but dont risk it ... Maybe with a SP90 Prometheus spring will keep its strenght longer then systema springs ... thats my next move but im not going over the M100 anymore,.... Paid the price now and i know exactly where the point of breakout and pressure is .... on the pinion gear ....

November 4th, 2007, 15:24	#33
TigerClaws Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St-Georges	yeah and i broke that one .... lol serious man ...

November 4th, 2007, 15:45	#35
TigerClaws Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St-Georges	well SP90 promo and M100 systema are probably about the same strenght no ?

November 4th, 2007, 15:47	#37
TigerClaws Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St-Georges	Oh Illusion thanks for lighing me, i did see that the piston teeths at the back are pretty much worn out but i didnt think about that ,..., thanks !! Good thing i have another one in stock :P

November 4th, 2007, 15:55	#39
TigerClaws Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St-Georges	Right so i guess ill stick with M100 :P

November 5th, 2007, 10:10	#41
TigerClaws Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St-Georges	I have an A&K electronic Magbox and it doesnt skip 1 bb in full auto at 30 bb/sec so im very happy with that. But the only way to really get there is the gears ... motor doesnt really change much ... I've slipped a magnum torque instead of the systema turbo motor and i get same ROF so its all about the gears mostly i guess. But obviouly, i can make it up to 400 fps and do the machine gunner dance without ripping the something out of there ... Anyway, i dont want to shoot 400fps since my team shoot mostly 400 and they have 1/2 the ROF i have, gotta keep a balance somewhere to make it fair ...

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