Review- HFC M190 (Beretta M9) - lots of pics! - Select Fire Edition

Bob the Angry Potato · May 10th, 2006, 21:39

Pistol as a homemade silencer on it now, with the words 'Cal 9' painted on it (Para didn't turn out) in small white letters.
Pictures soon- still waiting to order the damn adaptors.

Bob the Angry Potato · May 19th, 2006, 12:47

... woah.

The adaptors arrived (kudos to Madmax, Stefan, and ASC Armoury), and I got to fire them.

... woah.

Loud, high-powered, full auto's really, really fun. There's some recoil, and the gun seems quite accurate.
Haven't done any more then random plinking yet, I'll put some .22 targets up later.
The HiCapa 3.8 is nice, but right now, I'm rooting for the M190.

JTF27 · May 20th, 2006, 19:55

Today BTAP and I were testing his two new pistols, and I offered to do a pain test. So I got proper eye and face protection and stood approximately 8-10m away from BTAP. First he used the Hi-Capa (with Excel .25s, all I had at the time, and Coleman's Propane), and it hurt like a bitch, although the effects weren't immediate. Then we tried the M190, from a bit furthur, and once hit, pain was fucking INSTANT. There was lots of shouting and swearing, and laughing from BTAP. The guns left two big red welts, even through a shirt.
Awesome pistols BTAP!

^Hyperion^ · May 20th, 2006, 21:36

Haha yeah BTAP told me that. About 300 fps right in the belly should have definately hurt

Bob the Angry Potato · May 29th, 2006, 22:16

OK, I may as well follow up on this.

Anyways, this gun has exceeded all expectations.

It puts hole after hole through the same target- wherever I put it. The gun's accurate as hell, the hop-up is very stable, and the gas consumption is amazing.

The gun spits out about 7 RPS on full auto, perhaps more. Not the highest, but certainly fairly high- want more then that, get a Glock 18C. I don't see why you'd need much more then you have on this- however, on automatic, it's quite innacurate thanks to the recoil. Nomatter- considering it's on fully automatic, at that point you're not going for accuracy anyways.

All in all, it's an amazing gun. Full metal, built like a tank (this is no KJW pot metal, this is certainly something very strong), accurate, and powerful- it's certainly not the prettiest thing around, but if you don't like it, go get a Western Arms. This gun is not for you.
For the rest of us that prefer performances over function, this is certainly a gun for you. It's accurate and it packs a punch- what more can you ask? Whenever I need a gun to shoot someone with, the Hi-Capa and the Cougar (next on my list) can wait- the M190 is first out of the holster. In fact, I may buy another for my left hand- the fact that you can change mag-releases is another added plus.

Questions or concerns will be answered- I've taken the gun down, painted it flat black, sanded the barrel, and put it back together. Now it looks really quite professional.

When taking the gun apart to see the trigger spring, though, I was an idiot and let the hammer parts fly everywhere. That's not recommended- I managed to put it back together without much difficulty.

More pictures coming soon- next gun review will be a Western Arms Beretta Cougar M8045 Inox.

Spitfire · May 30th, 2006, 04:43

hei
i have a question... as far as i read on redwolf, the hfc m190 does either have no hop up or have a fixed hop up... is that true? or is it a mistake by redwolf?

thaaaaanks

PS: i like the finish of the gun very much! ill color! nice!

Bob the Angry Potato · May 30th, 2006, 11:25

Fixed hop up. Works very well, too.
Redwolf made a mistake.

Spitfire · May 30th, 2006, 13:32

k... but for wich bbs is the hopup?
i had a kjw m9... it was horrible... 0.2 -> tooooooooo strong... 0.25 -> toooo strong... 0.28-> strong, almost to strong...

what about hfc?

Bob the Angry Potato · May 30th, 2006, 14:33

HFC works great with .20s. It's calibrated for that.
.25s work too, I've been using primarily them.

Spitfire · May 30th, 2006, 15:11

k what gas do you use, how many fps?

Bob the Angry Potato · May 30th, 2006, 15:15

I've been using purely Propane- it works out of the box. I'm going to assume around 310 to 320 FPS, while doing some homechronos and comparing to other guns, it certainly seems that way.

Spitfire · May 30th, 2006, 17:29

k thanks

Bob the Angry Potato · May 30th, 2006, 17:52

Welcome, anytime.
Any other questions will be answered, it's a fairly simple yet amazingly efficient gun. The hammer mechanism, some people seem to have problems putting it back together (if they happen to somehow let the hammer mechanism fall apart). If anyone happens to have done this with an HFC Beretta, or even a KJ or a Marui, that they can't put back together, I'd be glad to help. Managed to do mine with about 20 minutes of trial-and-error.

Affliction · June 1st, 2006, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob the Angry Potato

Welcome, anytime.
Any other questions will be answered, it's a fairly simple yet amazingly efficient gun. The hammer mechanism, some people seem to have problems putting it back together (if they happen to somehow let the hammer mechanism fall apart). If anyone happens to have done this with an HFC Beretta, or even a KJ or a Marui, that they can't put back together, I'd be glad to help. Managed to do mine with about 20 minutes of trial-and-error.

Which retailer did you buy it from? How much did it cost?
-VM
(Awesome job with the paint btw)

Bob the Angry Potato · June 1st, 2006, 15:43

Thanks, man.
I bought it from AI Models (Great guy, great prices and fast shipping), for just shy of 200 dollars. Considering the KJW counterpart is about 300 and up, I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
Sam0182 (www.bcairsoftsupply.com) is importing some through AIModels as well, and will be reselling them for pretty good prices. I've already spoken to him, it should be the same model I have.

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May 20th, 2006, 21:36	#34
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	Haha yeah BTAP told me that. About 300 fps right in the belly should have definately hurt __________________

May 10th, 2006, 21:39	#31
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	Pistol as a homemade silencer on it now, with the words 'Cal 9' painted on it (Para didn't turn out) in small white letters. Pictures soon- still waiting to order the damn adaptors.

May 19th, 2006, 12:47	#32
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	... woah. The adaptors arrived (kudos to Madmax, Stefan, and ASC Armoury), and I got to fire them. ... woah. Loud, high-powered, full auto's really, really fun. There's some recoil, and the gun seems quite accurate. Haven't done any more then random plinking yet, I'll put some .22 targets up later. The HiCapa 3.8 is nice, but right now, I'm rooting for the M190.

May 20th, 2006, 19:55	#33
JTF27 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Halifax, NS	Today BTAP and I were testing his two new pistols, and I offered to do a pain test. So I got proper eye and face protection and stood approximately 8-10m away from BTAP. First he used the Hi-Capa (with Excel .25s, all I had at the time, and Coleman's Propane), and it hurt like a bitch, although the effects weren't immediate. Then we tried the M190, from a bit furthur, and once hit, pain was fucking INSTANT. There was lots of shouting and swearing, and laughing from BTAP. The guns left two big red welts, even through a shirt. Awesome pistols BTAP!

May 29th, 2006, 22:16	#35
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	OK, I may as well follow up on this. Anyways, this gun has exceeded all expectations. It puts hole after hole through the same target- wherever I put it. The gun's accurate as hell, the hop-up is very stable, and the gas consumption is amazing. The gun spits out about 7 RPS on full auto, perhaps more. Not the highest, but certainly fairly high- want more then that, get a Glock 18C. I don't see why you'd need much more then you have on this- however, on automatic, it's quite innacurate thanks to the recoil. Nomatter- considering it's on fully automatic, at that point you're not going for accuracy anyways. All in all, it's an amazing gun. Full metal, built like a tank (this is no KJW pot metal, this is certainly something very strong), accurate, and powerful- it's certainly not the prettiest thing around, but if you don't like it, go get a Western Arms. This gun is not for you. For the rest of us that prefer performances over function, this is certainly a gun for you. It's accurate and it packs a punch- what more can you ask? Whenever I need a gun to shoot someone with, the Hi-Capa and the Cougar (next on my list) can wait- the M190 is first out of the holster. In fact, I may buy another for my left hand- the fact that you can change mag-releases is another added plus. Questions or concerns will be answered- I've taken the gun down, painted it flat black, sanded the barrel, and put it back together. Now it looks really quite professional. When taking the gun apart to see the trigger spring, though, I was an idiot and let the hammer parts fly everywhere. That's not recommended- I managed to put it back together without much difficulty. More pictures coming soon- next gun review will be a Western Arms Beretta Cougar M8045 Inox.

May 30th, 2006, 04:43	#36
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	hei i have a question... as far as i read on redwolf, the hfc m190 does either have no hop up or have a fixed hop up... is that true? or is it a mistake by redwolf? thaaaaanks PS: i like the finish of the gun very much! ill color! nice!

May 30th, 2006, 11:25	#37
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	Fixed hop up. Works very well, too. Redwolf made a mistake.

May 30th, 2006, 13:32	#38
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	k... but for wich bbs is the hopup? i had a kjw m9... it was horrible... 0.2 -> tooooooooo strong... 0.25 -> toooo strong... 0.28-> strong, almost to strong... what about hfc?

May 30th, 2006, 14:33	#39
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	HFC works great with .20s. It's calibrated for that. .25s work too, I've been using primarily them.

May 30th, 2006, 15:11	#40
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	k what gas do you use, how many fps?

May 30th, 2006, 15:15	#41
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	I've been using purely Propane- it works out of the box. I'm going to assume around 310 to 320 FPS, while doing some homechronos and comparing to other guns, it certainly seems that way.

May 30th, 2006, 17:29	#42
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	k thanks

May 30th, 2006, 17:52	#43
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	Welcome, anytime. Any other questions will be answered, it's a fairly simple yet amazingly efficient gun. The hammer mechanism, some people seem to have problems putting it back together (if they happen to somehow let the hammer mechanism fall apart). If anyone happens to have done this with an HFC Beretta, or even a KJ or a Marui, that they can't put back together, I'd be glad to help. Managed to do mine with about 20 minutes of trial-and-error.

June 1st, 2006, 15:43	#45
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	Thanks, man. I bought it from AI Models (Great guy, great prices and fast shipping), for just shy of 200 dollars. Considering the KJW counterpart is about 300 and up, I'd say it's a pretty good deal. Sam0182 (www.bcairsoftsupply.com) is importing some through AIModels as well, and will be reselling them for pretty good prices. I've already spoken to him, it should be the same model I have.

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