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Old August 17th, 2009, 12:00   #16
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One of my sigs is getting the evil eye right now because my books this year are going to cost over a grand. FAAAAAAAAAAAACK
Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 12:44   #17
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Thankfully I've always tried to spend wisely and it looks as though won't have to trade guns for rent. I even had enough extra to buy myself a birthday present this past week.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 13:00   #18
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Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.
Even though I am a young guy myself, I too have made a few of these deals.

And as well, I am keeping my eyes peeled to good deals on PTW packages. With all of these being sold off, it is a good opportunity to finally get one and see if they are all they have been made out to be.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 13:01   #19
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Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.
We are a pretty hilarious breed.... This is a fact.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 13:16   #20
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Do be aware that many of the PTWs that are sold began life as a kit. It is not uncommon for an unexperienced person to try to save some money by buying a kit. While the kits themselves are fairly straight forward, the tolerances of the gun are exacting. Little errors can make big problems that can cost a lot of cash to overcome. That's not to say all the guns for sale are broken kits, but it can put a scare on a player when a simple mistake can cost you $250 to replace a board or a cylinder.

Internally, there is no better electric BB projecting system on the planet than a well kept PTW, but they are precision machines and can require precision handling which isn't always as common as the number of guns out there. The price/performance ratio is certainly not for everybody, but its fun while one can justify the cost
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Old August 17th, 2009, 20:50   #21
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I would guess that some guys are moving on to other things, but in my instance, it's "retirement" that has driven the sale of my PTWs.

Like Pirate has said, there are alot of variations out there in the condition and functionality of PTWs. If you guys could see all the guns that have crossed my bench in the last couple of years, the condition ranges from pristine to shocking. I have some pics of the worst ones, and they leave you saying "WTF, how could you do that to a gun".

More than once, guys have bought a $1500 kit package, only to find a cracked receiver, dud electronics, bad motor, torn hop-up rubber, poor assembly, poor packaging (and subsequant damage in shipping), you name it. There sometimes are good deals to be had, but you need to be fussy and vigilant in getting all the info on the gun in question.

Sometimes, you might see a gun listed at $3000, but factor in the level of accessories, optics, etc., and the price climbs very quickly.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 21:06   #22
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Ok, cool, now I understand better. Me too when i was a younger airsoft collector I wanted a systema, just to see what was a 1500$ usd weapon. But I think personnaly that there is no other Professionnal Training Weapon than a GBBR, since they are more realistic in function
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Old August 17th, 2009, 21:20   #23
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What is it with all those PTW for sale?
They tried using them and were then hit with a harsh reality.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 21:22   #24
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They tried using them and were then hit with a harsh reality.
Lol!!!
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Old August 17th, 2009, 21:36   #25
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It's been raining a lot this year. PTW owners decided they wanted an AEG they can actually use
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i personnaly seen 2-4 of em go down at the last game just cause is was humid

For 3000$ you would think it would work under water and not fail at the slightest touch of moisture.

Ah well thats why i would never own one
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Old August 17th, 2009, 21:41   #26
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I got one across my bench that I couldn't even disassemble, it has so much brass/steel/alloy corrosion.

I still have the pics.

It never failed due to moisture, in fact, it was working when I got it.

I won't mention who owned this one, to save him/her the embarassment:



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Old August 17th, 2009, 21:54   #27
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For 3000$ you would think it would work under water
You mean like this 120$ usd GBBR?

YouTube - AGM M4 GBB UNDER THE SEA
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Old August 17th, 2009, 22:18   #28
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Here's another gem. This lower was sent to me in a CP envelope, the fibre-filled one. It was blasted open 3 times, and was dutifully re-taped by CP:




The battery was twisted, and it took me 2 hours to tear the entire thing down, clean it, regrease and reassemble it before I could even mod the motor. Notice all the fibre dust on the lower, well, it was everywhere, in copius amounts.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 22:20   #29
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i have those same shorts
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Old August 17th, 2009, 22:21   #30
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You mean like this 120$ usd GBBR?

YouTube - AGM M4 GBB UNDER THE SEA


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