G&g umg

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

Are you implying that my Guarder chrono that is used by redwolf guntechs, and the chrono at xtreme tactics are both wrong? And yes I did chrono it on .2s out of the box, I'm not stupid.
Look the point is, it was dead accurate in CQB but shot anywhere from 160-220 stock. I put a systema cylinder set, hopup rubber and stock CA spring in it, it then shot 280 consistently and had incredible range and good accuracy afterwards

did i ever say you were stupid? did i know how many chronies you have tested it with? all i know is that the 3 UMgs ive seen in my hands shot 290, 310, and 360, nothing should be that low FPS out of the box, maybe you got a lemon

[SHaKaL]

My brother had 2 g&g UMP and they both shot at least 300 fps out of the box...
Your's have a problem if it shoot below that.

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by SHaKaL

My brother had 2 g&g UMP and they both shot at least 300 fps out of the box...
Your's have a problem if it shoot below that.

thanks i seen 2 G&G shot 310 and 360, and a STAR that shot 290, so i think you should get ur airseals checked out

[Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw]

Guys, he knows his was a dud, and thus fixed it and brought it up to a semi-decent speed.

And where did my previous post go? A certain someone isnt laughing anymore, but is sad.

[Thenooblord]

well what Im saying is that instead of spending all that on new upgrade parts, he should try to fix the original problem, the hopup is probably leaking, or the air nozzle isnt making a good seal or something, check those before you spend 80 dollars on parts

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

well what Im saying is that instead of spending all that on new upgrade parts, he should try to fix the original problem, the hopup is probably leaking, or the air nozzle isnt making a good seal or something, check those before you spend 80 dollars on parts

... Or y'know... while the gun's apart and the gearbox is open you could replace the shitty G&G parts with top end parts...

Oh, but what do I know.. I've only been fixing guns for 2 years, I don't have the eons of experience you do.

[AngelusNex]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

well what Im saying is that instead of spending all that on new upgrade parts, he should try to fix the original problem, the hopup is probably leaking, or the air nozzle isnt making a good seal or something, check those before you spend 80 dollars on parts

$80 on parts... That's not very much bru. How many guns have you actually fixed?? cause When I go into guns it's usually to add another $150 to their value.

[Thenooblord]

well i nkow 80 dollars istn a whole lot, but fixing a gun is even less, and Amos did i ever claim to know more than you about fixing guns? no, im just saying that upgrading other parts while not fixing the original problem is a waste, bnecause just trying to repair the original problem would most likely be alot cheaper and still yield a higher FPS, sure it would still be G&G internals, but alteast there wouldnt be some unseen problem with the gun that just has a bandaid on it, if i have a gun with top end internals but theres "something" wrong with it that makes it not work as well as even a stock gun, would you pay top dollar for it?

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

well i nkow 80 dollars istn a whole lot, but fixing a gun is even less, and Amos did i ever claim to know more than you about fixing guns? no, im just saying that upgrading other parts while not fixing the original problem is a waste, bnecause just trying to repair the original problem would most likely be alot cheaper and still yield a higher FPS, sure it would still be G&G internals, but alteast there wouldnt be some unseen problem with the gun that just has a bandaid on it, if i have a gun with top end internals but theres "something" wrong with it that makes it not work as well as even a stock gun, would you pay top dollar for it?

... Instead of trying to "Fix" fucked parts... You replace them with top end parts.

It fixes.. AND upgrades...

Who'da thunk it?

[ThunderCactus]

Why would I want stock fps over upgrade parts?
This is airsoft, you get exactly what you pay for, and if you want to save alot of money on your gun, your gonna have a crap gun.
I'd rather have a gun that shot 300fps and hit people at 70 yards than a 470fps gun that could only shoot 40
I think it's a waste to put stock parts back into a gun, when it's 4$ for a stock air nozzle and 9$ for an upgraded nozzle. Sure you save money, but if you want to upgrade later on well you just wasted 4$ for nothing
Like Amos said, it fixes AND upgrades. That way not only did my UMP shoot stock fps, but it got way better range and accuracy than any stock UMP could have, AND I didn't have to worry about any of my upgraded parts breaking.