Radios that dont need HAM

[Capt.Flan]

I see...

Should I order it then? Any safer way to get this?

[Styrak]

Order away!

I'm assuming customs won't care much. I've never heard of an airsofter getting a radio seized.

Using overpowered radios (as defined by the CRTC) is really only a problem if you're walking over a licensed frequency. And then, someone needs to complain.

For work purposes, we have several frequencies licensed within Canada. Even then, it's not uncommon to find yourself on someone else's frequency when you travel across the country. Most of the time, it's just a simple "Sorry about that, switching channels now" and there's no issue.

So to make a long story short, don't worry about it. I've never heard of anyone in Canada being jacked up for running overpowered radios.

[FlyGuy]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Technically 5 watt output power is illegal. However many people have ordered 5 watt radios overseas just fine, me included.

"Technically" speaking it's not just the tx power level that makes a radio illegal to own/operate. Though by the way Stryak, for general land-mobile use, 5W or more or less...it entirely depends upon authorized (via licence or certification) parameters, is perfectly fine. Therefore, a blanket 5W is illegal statement is not necessarily correct. FYI, for GMRS the max license-exempt transmitter power is 2W for Canada, obviously making all 4W+ UHF radios illegal to use on GMRS, but that's not really my point or my problem.

As for the GP-68 and pretty much all other Asia imports, the whole damn radio is illegal for use here in Canada because it's not certified against Industry Canada's RSS-119, but don't let that little tid-bit stop you. If CBSA bothers to notice the DOC/IC approval number is missing and bothers to seize it, well...you were warned!

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

Using overpowered radios (as defined by the CRTC) is really only a problem if you're walking over a licensed frequency. And then, someone needs to complain....
...So to make a long story short, don't worry about it. I've never heard of anyone in Canada being jacked up for running overpowered radios.

Umm Mad, the CRTC has nothing to do with 2-way radio. It's Industry Canada, and there have been people cited in the past for over-powered operation, but that's usually been a charge in addition to operating un-licensed and in some cases causing deliberate interference with licensed users, an act which definitely attracts attention and one that Industry Canada takes a very dim view of naturally.

Realistically however, the GP-68 radio will probably get through as CBSA surveillance of un-certified radios is not exactly intense compared with the other items found in this hobby.


Cheers!
'Fly

PS: For detailed instructions, look up Mot AP-73 (Ham version of the GP-68) operator's manual as there's no programming cable...everything's from the front panel. Too bad he's not selling the hi-cap battery with it.

[Death March]

Lol, It does happen Ind. canada has knocked on my door and they went over all my stuff and found it was the person that complained about my radio that had crappy tv's. But Ind. Canada will come knock'n if they have reason. Over the years I'v knowen a few people that have lost there radio's to them. It's not as Prevelent as it once was,but can happen. Will it happen for what we do with it.....probably not,but it is chace of it happing?

Sorry, I mixed up my regulatory bodies. And as I said, I haven't heard of anyone getting jacked for using overpowered radios...not 5W sets anyway. It probably happens, but probably not frequently for handheld sets. Base stations at 30W or higher-power transmitters, sure.

Anyway, you clearly know more about this shit than I do.

Death March - I assume you were using something a little heftier than a 5W handheld UHF radio.

[Drake]

In 10 years I've never heard of anyone in airsoft causing or getting into trouble with radios. These are radios we use out in the bush, usually away from populated areas (due to the nature of the sport). I've seen a lot of heavily wooded areas were regular 0.5W FRS radios have a range of about 100-200 meters; going to 4W (typical Chinese UHF handheld radio) isn't really going to step on any toes, even if it's technically illegal. There simply isn't anyone around who'll pick up the signal besides airsofters.

[Death March]

Death March - I assume you were using something a little heftier than a 5W handheld UHF radio.[/QUOTE]

Maayybe lol.

[coach]

Originally Posted by Drake

In 10 years I've never heard of anyone in airsoft causing or getting into trouble with radios. These are radios we use out in the bush, usually away from populated areas (due to the nature of the sport). I've seen a lot of heavily wooded areas were regular 0.5W FRS radios have a range of about 100-200 meters; going to 4W (typical Chinese UHF handheld radio) isn't really going to step on any toes, even if it's technically illegal. There simply isn't anyone around who'll pick up the signal besides airsofters.

I don't take issue with people using these higher power radios on the airsoft fields that are typically out of range of others. Well somewhat out of range considering that these radios do transmit considerably further.

I do take issue of suggesting or recommending radios outside of the legal power range to people who will likely or possibly use it off of the airsoft field in their daily lives. Out on the roads, in the mall or at amusement parks or the like.

It's not technically illegal, it is illegal and steering or pointing someone in that direction is irresponsible.

[Infidel]

I only need a radio for airsoft, anyone recomend a radio that transmits in the required freqs or give me the freqs that GMRS/FRS radios work in...

I get to play with much more powerfull radios at work

~Thanato