Anyone else have issues with Velocity Arms BBs?

[TCLP]

My gf has never had issues with her .20 KSC bb's.
And whats funny is I had a totally different story with my p90. The AE and Excel's I used never broke on me in there mags. I had 3 lows never had an issue.
Whats funny is every gun likes different bb's. Regardless if they come from the same manufactor. And BB QC can be bad at times to.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

The BB Bastards I have here are much harder and although they do a similar "dry squish", they require much more force.

Important distinction - they require more force. Bastards are designed to tolerate greater pressures and faster feeds. This is why the PDW crowd has good results with Bastard .28's. BBs do need to have some "squish" which equates to flexibility in order to more easily pass through the hopup, particularly on full metal hopups or you get jams. The only problem is if you make them too soft, they deform easily and either crack, jam or leave tailings in your AEG feedpath. If they are too hard, they jam entirely and damage your gun, or score your plastic components and prematurely wear your feedpath. Its a fine line and its a material selection and manufacturing engineering design issue you have to address if you're going to make a good BB. I like to think (and I think experience proves it out) that I've addressed that aspect of engineering in my own product.

What I am going to say here will sound partisan, but since my product has already been mentioned and indexed in Google in this thread, I feel I have the right to make this point clearly (its not my intent to slam Karnage). I had the opportunity to OEM KSC's and declined the offer. They are considerably cheaper in rice bag quantities, but you get what you pay for. Look at it another way, if you're going to spend good money on an AEG, spend the money on a quality BB to go through it.

[Karnage]

I'd just like to note that I agree with scarecrow on this. I know bb bastards are good quality stuff and I don't Promote the same standard In these KSC/VA bbs, I've brought these in as a reliable source for those that don't want to pay top dollar for quality they don't need. KSC is a proven brand of bbs worldwide at a great value for the dolar. These are geared towards the newer emerging players who's budget reflect more of the JG and other china clone owners. He'll even tm owners could be using these as the guns aren't as demanding as PTWs.

Not using a 6.01mm tightbore? Not using a PTW? Then these are for you. Otherwise I'd openly recommend bastards as they are a great product.

[Crunchmeister]

OK, I thought I would update this thread with latest developments...

First off, sorry Karnage - returning the BBs and all just slipped my mind totally. With it being the off-season and all, it just fell off my radar. I put them away and sort of forgot about it until today.

Now the update - I was doing some maintenance on my Type 56 today and discovered a small 'dent' in the the plastic feed tube of the hopup. Not sure how it got there, but it just SLIGHTLY deformed the feed tube. I inserted a pair of scissors, twisted them and gently reshaped the tube, and now VA and KSC BBs feed without issue. Not sure why Bastards were working without issue in them and VA, KSC and Madbull weren't. Could be some slight tolerance issues with size or that they're harder BBs or something. Not sure what it is. But VA BBs are working perfectly in my Type 56 now. They still jam my KSC Glock mags, but KSC have always done that.

Now the issue of them breaking in the mags - I fired off 3 mags today in my Typoe 56 and 2 in my P90 to test (about 500 rounds), and had none break on loading like last time I tried them. I'm a bit confused as to why they may have been breaking. I did lube my mags today which may have helped, but they had been lubed last time too, so not sure what the deal is there.

But all sees ok with these BBs now for whatever reason. I'll just keep them and use them for plinking / testing purposes (like I do with my other KSC) as they seem to be working out fine. I'll just be more careful loading up the mags not to apply too much force to break them.

[LocoYokoPoco]

Just bought a bag of 10000 bbs, and i just noticed that all of them have some weird texture and shape to them. They are a big darker than other BBs i've used. Also, they have an irregular/imperfect shape to them. They have a really bumpy feel to them, unlike the smooth feel I get from other brands. Moreover, when I was loading one of my mags, one of the bbs broke in the mag and just killed the whole thing. It also seems to have a feeding issue with my G&G Gr16 m4, and almost every 4 shots or so it misfeeds. I think I'll stick with MTMFG and BBBasterds from now on ><

[theguy]

... a bag of 10 000?

Were they perhaps the http://velocityarms.ca/index.php?mai...roducts_id=312??

I wouldn't use those in your guns.

Regular VA BB's are great, I believe they are rebrands of KSC

[LocoYokoPoco]

Originally Posted by theguy

... a bag of 10 000?

Were they perhaps the http://velocityarms.ca/index.php?mai...roducts_id=312??

I wouldn't use those in your guns.

Regular VA BB's are great, I believe they are rebrands of KSC

Yea those are it. I just noticed that quite a few of em are dented already. The also seem very "soft" and easy to break.

[theguy]

Yeah, both VA and Airsoftparts.ca sell "economic BB's"
They are really only supposed to be used in grenades

Originally Posted by ian209

Yea those are it. I just noticed that quite a few of em are dented already. The also seem very "soft" and easy to break.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by theguy

Yeah, both VA and Airsoftparts.ca sell "economic BB's"
They are really only supposed to be used in grenades

VA BBs are rebranded KSC Perfect. They're not "economy brand".

On a side note, I've tried finishing off the remaining VA BBs I had left over and started experiencing the same issues with them again. A few of the locals guys had them as well (it's what our local surplus store used to carry) and they were experiencing all kinds of breakage and stoppages as well.

Beats me as to why these BBs give me such a hard time. It's the same reason I stopped buying KSC too, because they'd do the same thing. So I doubt that VA are KSC 'seconds' or anything like that.

[theguy]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

VA BBs are rebranded KSC Perfect. They're not "economy brand".

On a side note, I've tried finishing off the remaining VA BBs I had left over and started experiencing the same issues with them again. A few of the locals guys had them as well (it's what our local surplus store used to carry) and they were experiencing all kinds of breakage and stoppages as well.

Beats me as to why these BBs give me such a hard time. It's the same reason I stopped buying KSC too, because they'd do the same thing. So I doubt that VA are KSC 'seconds' or anything like that.

no, no, i know that. I'm referring to the question asked before, A poster bought a bag of 10 000 VA bb's and was wondering why they has defects.

I was saying that both airsoftparts.ca and VA sell "economic bb's" as cheaper options. Its not all they sell, just an option, generally recomended for use in grenades.

Also, I like KSC BB's, im a big fan of them and VA, i use both them and Bastards.

[AngelusNex]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

VA BBs are rebranded KSC Perfect. They're not "economy brand".

theguy was talking about the value pack VA sells, the "just for grenades, unpolished, reject bags" which should absolutely never touch the inside of a mag and/or gun.

[theguy]

Originally Posted by AngelusNex

theguy was talking about the value pack VA sells, the "just for grenades, unpolished, reject bags" which should absolutely never touch the inside of a mag and/or gun.

Bang on,
Airsoftparts.ca sells the same thing but from madbull, thats what i was talking about

[coach]

Frank should really label those with a caveat on there like Duy has

[Azathoth]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

They definitely do not crush, crumble nor shatter like Maruzen, Tokyo Marui & Excel BBs do. You'd think those were made from Sweet Tarts or Rockets, judging by the way they crumbled...

It's very odd I've had every brand of BB and weight up to .30 shatter and fragment (except BBBmax, TM Superior grade) but only when shot at the frame of a ballstic glasses which always causes the failure of said pair of eye protection

[ILLusion]

I did my test by crushing them with pliers.