Airsoft Canada
http://triggerairsoft.com/shop/

Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Accessories Discussion
Home Forums Register Gallery FAQ Calendar
Retailers Community News/Info International Retailers IRC Today's Posts

Do silencers really silence an AEG?

:

Accessories Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 10th, 2008, 01:10   #16
digital_blue
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In the sticks
Quote:
Originally Posted by FOX_111 View Post
Some Real steel suppressor do modify the point of impact of bullets, wich require re-zeroing the rifle for the supressor. If they mess with bullets PoI, they must mess with fps.
In a real gun, the bullet actually travels down another "barrel" inside the silencer. This minor variation will distort accuracy and reduce FPS by a little. Besides, in a suppressed weapon you should be using subsonic rounds so your velocity will be reduced anyways.
digital_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 10th, 2008, 01:59   #17
FOX_111
Le Roi des poissons d'avril
 
FOX_111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Terrebonne, Québec
Airsoft supressor and Real steel supressor work on the same principle. Only in airsoft, we don't deal with hot gas and high pressure. So we use foam insted of steel chambers inside the supressor. Both work on the same principle though. Reducing the air pressure at the mussle, wich make most of the noise of the report. The other noise source is the bullet super sonic bang. Wich is eliminated with subsonic rounds.

If you want to see how a real supressor is built, look it up on the internet, I once found a nice cut away of a MP5SD supressor.
__________________

Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne
FOX_111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 10th, 2008, 02:16   #18
Naglfar
 
Naglfar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ottawa
The air currents down the barrel (real steel and airsoft) are changed once the barrel changes to open air (unsuppressed) or changes to foam and then from foam to air. I don't know how to calculate, but the fluid dynamics from 2 medium transitions do add a small effect on fps and direction depending on if the air propelling the BB or bullet is twisting or passing by on one side.
A tiny defect can allow air to pass through on one side of the projectile causing a low pressure on that point...it's seriously a highly variable system.

If I'm not mistaken, the main report of the gun is heard because the air goes from being pressurized and confined to the barrel to an unconfined space where it rapidly loses pressure.
Naglfar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 10th, 2008, 02:36   #19
FOX_111
Le Roi des poissons d'avril
 
FOX_111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Terrebonne, Québec
Basically, building a pressure wave that travel a certain distance.... wich we call sound.

If that pressure wave is dissipated, the sound produced is less audible.
__________________

Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne
FOX_111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 10th, 2008, 16:24   #20
Ph0_Eat3r
 
Ph0_Eat3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: toronto
Send a message via MSN to Ph0_Eat3r
Well i took my ak outside and gave 3 round bursts at a pole without the silencer and 2 out of 3 bbs hit the pole. But when i put the silencer on 1 out of 3 bbs hit the pole so i guess it has something to do with the bbs hiting the inside of the silencer.

as for muffling the noise from the mechbox i couldnt really tell the blowback on the ak74mn is pretty luod everytime i shoot i hear a clack clack clack.
Ph0_Eat3r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 10th, 2008, 18:30   #21
mcguyver
 
mcguyver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northern Alberta
I had an AUG with foam stuffed around the mechbox, and a First Factory OPS silencer. I lost 20 fps with the silencer on, and I used that silencer on the AUG, MP5K and G3/SG1. All guns lost 20 fps.

That AUG was so quiet, I could tag a guy in the bush at less than 20 feet, and his buddies had no idea where is came from.
__________________
Age verifier Northern Alberta

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner.

Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads.

Never confuse freedom with democracy.
mcguyver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2008, 00:40   #22
Blackspeed416
 
Blackspeed416's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
I've shot people from 20ft away with my Mode-2 suppressor and they could tell where the shot came from. My gear box is quite also.
__________________
VFC HK416D 14.5RS
Laylax Mode-2 Suppressor
Hurricane EOTech 551
RICO Alpha 9 Tactical Light
KM TN Teflon coated 6.04 barrel
Stock Gearbox
Systema Magnum Motor FTW!!!
Phantom Ciras
RS CAA 6 Position Retractable Stock
S Arms M4 160rd Midcap Magazines
Magpul PTS Enhanced Trigger Guard
Magpul PTS MIAD Grip Kit
Magpul Ranger Plates
NcStar Mark III Advance Tactical Compact Scope
Blackspeed416 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2008, 01:08   #23
rockafella
 
rockafella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
Personally i think that it does work (though it's hard to tell sometimes becuase AEG's are already have a medium tone). But I just did a few test shots with my CQBR, forst with just the standard M4 flash hider, then with my ICS QD KAC silencer, then again with just the flash hider then a Madbull Novezke KX3, and repeated the cycle then mixed it up a bit. And yes i did notice that the suppressor does soften the sound a bit (IMO by about 35-40%) and the KX3 increases the sound by about the same. I think that it is a more dramatic sound diffrence in shorter barreled guns. Also i bet that this would work wonders on a 'classic' gun much more so than on an AEG.
__________________
rockafella is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2008, 01:25   #24
WarHawk109
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Victoria
I had a halo gemtech on my ptw, not much difference up close, but from far away when i shoot, i've been told that they can't tell where it's coming from, so it's a pretty nice effect.
__________________
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Ben Franklin
WarHawk109 is offline   Reply With Quote
ReplyTop


Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Accessories Discussion

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Airsoft Canada
http://triggerairsoft.com/shop/

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:43.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.