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[Foofighter]

Yea, but you can't say that 007's markup isn't either...

[Cassius]

LeBlanc, I'd be very interested but I'm sure I can't contact them online right?

Also, I don't like buyairsoft.ca simply because when browsing their site. The Pro/High Priced/High Grade AEG category consists of TSD and ICS.

If they would stock some TM, CA and Systema; how would they rate that category? Uber-Godly-we-all-bow-to-the-all-mighty Grade?

We all know that ICS and TSD are not Pro or High whatever brands so why make them appear like that? Because it's shit.

[leblanc74]

Originally Posted by Cassius

LeBlanc, I'd be very interested but I'm sure I can't contact them online right?

No; unfortunaltely, you would have to go to the store and talked with the owner then go from there...

[Cassius]

Dammit!

We need to move Ontario over to Montreal...

[Crunchmeister]

Hmmm... buyairsoft's too big a markup? It's better to buy from 007?

Let's see:

ICS M16
Buyairsoft.ca: $600
007: $780

ICS M4 variants
Buyairsoft.ca: $600 - 760
007: $750-890

ICS MP5 models
Buyairsoft.ca: $435 - $505, depending on model
007: all models $630

And yes, there are the identical guns, not different models of the same style of gun. These are the all-metal ICS models.

I'm not going to argue the sematics of how they classify their guns as 'pro grade' or not. I don't quite agree with their classification of the guns either, but I'm not going to get my skivvies in a bunch over that. So I'm curious as to the reasoning on how buyairsoft's prices are unreasonable, but 007's are acceptable.

And yes, the ICS stuff is out of stock at buyairsoft.ca. But when it WAS in stock, these were their prices, and IMO a LOT more reasonable than 007. I don't know what the pricing is for ICS at A&A because they're all out of stock there as well.

It may sound like I'm defending buyairsoft here, but really, I'm not. I'm just reading all these comments about how they suck and their stuff being overpriced, when the same products are being sold on the 'preferred' sites for 25+% higher price, and yet, people support the high price on the other sites without bitching.

I agree that their current airsoft shit is nothing but crap clearsoft, but it's also appropriately priced. I really don't understand what people's beef is with them, really. So they don't have the high end stuff that the others have. So what? If a store caters to a different target market than me, it doesn't mean they suck. It just means that they don't carry what I want, and I'll go shop elsewhere.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Hmmm... buyairsoft's too big a markup? It's better to buy from 007?

Let's see:

ICS M16
Buyairsoft.ca: $600
007: $780

ICS M4 variants
Buyairsoft.ca: $600 - 760
007: $750-890

ICS MP5 models
Buyairsoft.ca: $435 - $505, depending on model
007: all models $630

And yes, there are the identical guns, not different models of the same style of gun. These are the all-metal ICS models.

I'm not going to argue the sematics of how they classify their guns as 'pro grade' or not. I don't quite agree with their classification of the guns either, but I'm not going to get my skivvies in a bunch over that. So I'm curious as to the reasoning on how buyairsoft's prices are unreasonable, but 007's are acceptable.

And yes, the ICS stuff is out of stock at buyairsoft.ca. But when it WAS in stock, these were their prices, and IMO a LOT more reasonable than 007. I don't know what the pricing is for ICS at A&A because they're all out of stock there as well.

It may sound like I'm defending buyairsoft here, but really, I'm not. I'm just reading all these comments about how they suck and their stuff being overpriced, when the same products are being sold on the 'preferred' sites for 25+% higher price, and yet, people support the high price on the other sites without bitching.

I agree that their current airsoft shit is nothing but crap clearsoft, but it's also appropriately priced. I really don't understand what people's beef is with them, really. So they don't have the high end stuff that the others have. So what? If a store caters to a different target market than me, it doesn't mean they suck. It just means that they don't carry what I want, and I'll go shop elsewhere.

Easy. 007 pays for licensing to import, hence they have much higher operating costs. Buyairsoft imported this stuff without licenses, hence they had much higher markups. Don't automatically assume higher price = higher markup. Ever wonder why buyairsoft only stocks clear shit now??? Because they were importing without a license and the CBSA got wise.

[Crunchmeister]

Well, that certainly explains their lower prices. But as long as the price is right and they have the products I want, that's where I'll shop. Whatever reason they can't get the stuff now, it's their problem, not mine. We'll just have to wait and see how it works out for them and if they do indeed start getting new non-clear stuff and more brands in mid-2008 as they said they would.

If not, then no biggie. There's always 007, A&A and the classified ads here. Between the classifieds and A&A, I've put out quite a bit of money in the last couple of weeks.

[Lakonian]

007 all the fuckin' way. Ken's the man. Saved me nearly 500$ on my PTW order.

[Cassius]

Ken and Mark indeed although I still prefer the classifieds.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Well, that certainly explains their lower prices. But as long as the price is right and they have the products I want, that's where I'll shop. Whatever reason they can't get the stuff now, it's their problem, not mine. We'll just have to wait and see how it works out for them and if they do indeed start getting new non-clear stuff and more brands in mid-2008 as they said they would.

If not, then no biggie. There's always 007, A&A and the classified ads here. Between the classifieds and A&A, I've put out quite a bit of money in the last couple of weeks.

Wrong. Retailers bringing in stuff illegally is bad for the entire hobby. Open your eyes and start looking at the big picture.

[Scooby Steve]

I'll rot before I'll buy from buyairsoft.ca. Too much of a guy-standing-by-an-open-trunk-going-pssst-wanna-buy-some-Airsoft vibe.

[Cassius]

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve

I'll rot before I'll buy from buyairsoft.ca. Too much of a guy-standing-by-an-open-trunk-going-pssst-wanna-buy-some-Airsoft vibe.

+1

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve

I'll rot before I'll buy from buyairsoft.ca. Too much of a guy-standing-by-an-open-trunk-going-pssst-wanna-buy-some-Airsoft vibe.

If they get their act together, import legally, and bring in shit that equals more than the worth of a turd, I'll consider buying something from them if it's something I want.

Having said that, between Juggelz, Mark, Ken, the ASC classifieds, and what I already own, I have no reason to buy anything from them.