September 20th, 2007, 17:04 | #16 |
Nutshell; if you buy crap, you wind up wasting your cash on smething that is NOT worth it. Or on something that is so expensive to upgrade you'll wind up wasting even more cash.
Your choices; buy new and expect high costs, or get your age verified to access the deals in the Classifieds section. Even then, you're probably looking at close to $600 for the basics. You should still go to a meet/game to see stuff before making an expensive mistake, but it's your money. |
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September 20th, 2007, 17:09 | #17 |
Well right now proably around 200$ , but if I find I really like it, then i'll proably get way more into it and have a bigger bugget. Also I ordered a Well P90, this was before I knew anything about airsoft, but I thought it might be a good starting gun, around 220 FPS with .2 BB's and 400 rounds a min RoF, plus it holds 400 rounds, though it's gravity feed range is said to be 20 meters. Anyways proably a noob choice but the point is now, im learning and that's what counts.
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September 20th, 2007, 17:16 | #18 |
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Im glad your open minded and willing to learn, here on the ASC forums we really respect those who are open to suggestion and can stand a little criticism. Airsoft in Canada, as it stands right now sits in somewhat of a greyish area. So there is alot of information to absorb and not all of it can be spooned in the brain in one sitting.
I hope that Well p90 was ordered in Canada. Ordering from anywhere else is bad news. As per Canada's firearms regulations, the Canadian border service will seize your gun and destroy it and you will be left with nothing. Unless that gun is made of clear plastic material, then there maybe a chance that you culd recieve it. Im not going to get into a debate of whether or not clear guns can make it. Some say yes, some say no, I dont with to dig for evidence to support either side. Some companys in the US and abroad will tell you that they ship to Canada with no issues, but in reality that is most likly not true and they just want your money. The short and sweet of it is, skim through this section and read some of the threads. You'll find alot of info that may help you with any questions you may have now or later on. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21
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September 20th, 2007, 17:21 | #20 |
I'm probably one of the more open-minded individuals when it comes to trying new brands and such, being rather new myself, so please understand the importance when I'm coming right and telling you that you're making a bad choice. You don't learn about airsoft buying stuff that are so low end that they aren't worth your money.
Take the Well P90 for example, which I assume you're ordering from a Canadian source. First of all, it's not 220fps with 0.20g. According to Airsplat, it's 200fps with 0.12g, which translates to around 150 with 0.20g. You're not going to learn anything about airsoft buying it beyond that: 1. Crappy cheap guns are crappy because they are cheap 2. You could've spent that money a lot better In the end, $200 is an unrealistic expectation of a beginner's budget. There's no fudging with such a low number. It's like spending $20 on a really old 386 running Windows 3.1, thinking that it'll somehow represent a meaningful step towards experiencing today's PC gaming world. You can either save that $200 until it becomes part of a useful sum, or you can waste it away on bad purchases so that it'll take you even longer to accumulate enough money to buy real airsoft guns. I'm not flaming you, BTW. I'm saying all this because I care. If I didn't, I'd just laugh at you behind my keyboard.
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September 20th, 2007, 18:03 | #21 |
And Airsplat even exaggerates their numbers!
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September 20th, 2007, 18:43 | #22 |
Wow ouch 150fps. That's pretty bad. Do what everyone else said, either wait and save up your money or come up with more now. It will probbaly cost you approximately 500.00 for a Jing Jong airsoft rifle, an extra magazine or 2, safety goggles and a bag of bb's. Whatever you do DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON THE EYE PROTECTION.
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September 20th, 2007, 19:02 | #23 |
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G'day,
I manage CQB with a TM MP5K that's slightly not working and only shoots at ~200 FPS (Or is that normal for this AEG?). You just gotta get closer than usual is all.
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September 20th, 2007, 19:06 | #24 |
I'm sure that sounds right for that aeg. It actually sounds a bit high.
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September 20th, 2007, 19:13 | #25 |
I don't want to quote posts 18 and 20 (TokyoSeven and The Saint, respectively) just to say "I agree" but that's excellent advice presented well. What you buy now won't be your only guns forever so save up and buy well and you'll be happy. The adage, "You get what you pay for", is very true.
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September 20th, 2007, 19:53 | #26 |
Short and sweet answer to the original question:
Up to 200fps is great for indoor, 200-400 for outdoor. And the crap guns are great for indoor games when you don't want to leave welts and bruises all over everyone else. Though a Velocity reducer is cheaper and better. |
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September 20th, 2007, 20:10 | #27 |
300+FPS
There are plenty of mid level and high end guns that come stock around 320-350FPS. You should be able to hold your own in the field and pass the FPS limit on CQB on most fields. |
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September 20th, 2007, 20:11 | #28 |
200FPS for CQB limit!? thats it?
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September 20th, 2007, 20:17 | #29 |
ok, thank you for all the Info guys. I really apprecite it all.
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September 20th, 2007, 20:24 | #30 |
No, but it's decent. I wouldn't go past 300fps though, just for the sake of others. I know I personally would rather not have welts and bruises all over me. But it really depends on what the actual distance is. When I say indoor, I mean within ten meters.
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