M16 good buy for a starter?

Rumpel Felt · August 16th, 2006, 21:51

I have a CA G36C. Noone has ever complained of them not working out of the box and mine was perfect. Having owned a TM G36 before, I can confidently say that even in the case of a real life non-metal gun, TM still falls short to CA. The glass fibre body is feels a hell of a lot better, not to mention it shoots harder and you actually get all three rails with the gun.

It's just a much wiser choice to go with a gun you don't have to upgrade in any way now wouldn't you think? Especially for this new person. Get a full metal M16....

Greylocks · August 16th, 2006, 22:05

Here's another way to see things; pick a gun you DONT read about in the Doctor's Corner, or rarely see mentioned there for anything serious.

For the rest, there's threads like What is the Best AEG.

Inform yourself, follow the laws/rules. That's about it.

^Hyperion^ · August 16th, 2006, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

I have a CA G36C. Noone has ever complained of them not working out of the box and mine was perfect. Having owned a TM G36 before, I can confidently say that even in the case of a real life non-metal gun, TM still falls short to CA. The glass fibre body is feels a hell of a lot better, not to mention it shoots harder and you actually get all three rails with the gun.

It's just a much wiser choice to go with a gun you don't have to upgrade in any way now wouldn't you think? Especially for this new person. Get a full metal M16....

Of course it's better but if the guy'S a bit low on money or dont wanna spend too much on his first purchase , maybe a TM is a best choice since it's cheaper. But again , yeah you're right , CA is definately better. And if the guy can handle the maintenance his M16 needs to prevent the barrel from wobbling , pick the TM M16

Trader rating · August 16th, 2006, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Freedom Fighter

What the hell are you noobs talking about? M16 barrel wobble? It's not very noticeable. Once every month or so you could just tighten up a couple screws if it were to get loose, and you could go all out and put some thread locker on it. I owned a Marui M16 for quite a long time and only had to tighten up the barrel a couple times, and that was being gamed with at least once per week, sometimes twice a week.

Did you lads know I can fly if I flap my arms really hard? Someone post the same thing so these guys know I'm not talking shit will you.

The Marui M16 Series is not perfect, but it's still an excellent gun, even for new players.

well, i beg to differ. My TM armalite had atleast 2 inches of wobble left or right right out of the box... Needed locktight and tightening every game. Reciever didnt last 5 games.

For the money that needs to be invested in one to make it reliably solid, its a much easier and cheaper way to go if you go FMU right off the bat. Especially with ASCA selling FMU Classic army armalites for so cheap.

^Hyperion^ · August 16th, 2006, 22:44

Told ya FF that Droc was a living example of the 2 inch wobbling. I'm feeling less lonely now

stephengijo · August 16th, 2006, 22:48

Where do you get a full metal m16

Dracheous · August 16th, 2006, 22:55

There's one good thing about Armalites that is good for noobies. It'll teach you how the AEG's work because they do break down. Its one reason why I went with the M4A1 to begin with is that because it does break down I will have to learn to fix it.

Barrel wobble goes from gun to gun I think. Some people are lucky others are SOL. There are ways to fix barrel wobble, one good one is a one peice barrel. But then you start getting into expensive external upgrades. The best Armalites to go with are the G&G, G&P and CA guns out there. For an extra buck at the till you make a big savings on having to buy metal bodies and one peice barrels, and even a RAS on the G&G and G&P versions. As for CA, I'm lead to believe that CA parts are hard to find ((someone correct me if I'm wrong there)).

Bottom line, Armalites are cool, they look good ((to me they do)) but you have to realise that the Armalites have some serious cons to them that you need to be ready for.

And even with me being a newb in comparison to some of the older folks here I do get to say this because my issue with the TM armalite was not the body or barrel it was the damn stock mechbox that kept blowing itself apart. The very FIRST upgrades you want to do is/are metal bushings and a reinforced mechbox ((if you change the spring that is, or plan too))

^Hyperion^ · August 16th, 2006, 23:45

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Originally Posted by stephengijo

Where do you get a full metal m16

PLEASE READ THE FAQ

Before the Greylocks-noob-eater monster eats you

Greylocks · August 17th, 2006, 07:44

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Originally Posted by stephengijo

Where do you get a full metal m16

You take the 2 seconds to look at the top of each page of these forums; there are 2 buttons you can use.

One is Canadian Retailers (guess what they sell?).
The other is by clicking on the ASC ARMOURY logo.

Sit back and read, make an effort to do some research. And you CANT buy one until you are 18 so you have the time to read up.

spyther · August 18th, 2006, 14:29

I have a TM m16a2 - my first gun, and I've never played a full game with it. I keep it lying flat in cushioned surfaces, and the barrel wobbles incredibly bad. I tighten the barrel and screws all the time while cleaning it, do everything I can that isn't short of buying something for it. I just leave it to the side and use my ICS M4, works tons better. It is reliable though, it'll shoot, but probably not straight if your barrel is pointing towards 10 o'clock instead of 12.

evilmonkey · August 18th, 2006, 14:40

My first gun was a TM M16A2 and i loved it, great accuracy and good ROF with 9.6V battery and as for the barrel wobble problem it cost me under $20 for some thread lock tape and some JB weld and i never saw the problem again, in my opinion its one of the best n00b gun ever

^Hyperion^ · August 18th, 2006, 14:44

Well , IMO a perfect n00b gun shouldn't have to suffer this kind of problem ( barrel wobble ). Why not choose another great gun from TM that just does not suffer from any big problem. Like the Steyr AUG , MP5 , AK etc..

evilmonkey · August 18th, 2006, 14:46

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Originally Posted by ^Hyperion^

Well , IMO a perfect n00b gun shouldn't have to suffer this kind of problem ( barrel wobble ). Why not choose another great gun from TM that just does not suffer from any big problem. Like the Steyr AUG , MP5 , AK etc..

Because all those other guns are ugly!!!

Lakonian · August 18th, 2006, 14:57

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Originally Posted by thephenom

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Originally Posted by stephengijo

whats armalites

You need to learn how to search while you're at it.

M4, M16 series are all armalites.

AR design. Armalite was the initial designer of that style/operation.

^Hyperion^ · August 18th, 2006, 15:06

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Originally Posted by evilmonkey

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Originally Posted by ^Hyperion^

Well , IMO a perfect n00b gun shouldn't have to suffer this kind of problem ( barrel wobble ). Why not choose another great gun from TM that just does not suffer from any big problem. Like the Steyr AUG , MP5 , AK etc..

Because all those other guns are ugly!!!

Funk you bastard ! :rrr:

The MP5 is but I refuse to say the AK , AUG and , above all , Famas is ugly because beauty is in the eye of beholder

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August 16th, 2006, 22:44	#20
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	Told ya FF that Droc was a living example of the 2 inch wobbling. I'm feeling less lonely now __________________

August 16th, 2006, 22:55	#22
Dracheous Lego Head Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gatineau, that's right I'm in QUEBEC!	There's one good thing about Armalites that is good for noobies. It'll teach you how the AEG's work because they do break down. Its one reason why I went with the M4A1 to begin with is that because it does break down I will have to learn to fix it. Barrel wobble goes from gun to gun I think. Some people are lucky others are SOL. There are ways to fix barrel wobble, one good one is a one peice barrel. But then you start getting into expensive external upgrades. The best Armalites to go with are the G&G, G&P and CA guns out there. For an extra buck at the till you make a big savings on having to buy metal bodies and one peice barrels, and even a RAS on the G&G and G&P versions. As for CA, I'm lead to believe that CA parts are hard to find ((someone correct me if I'm wrong there)). Bottom line, Armalites are cool, they look good ((to me they do)) but you have to realise that the Armalites have some serious cons to them that you need to be ready for. And even with me being a newb in comparison to some of the older folks here I do get to say this because my issue with the TM armalite was not the body or barrel it was the damn stock mechbox that kept blowing itself apart. The very FIRST upgrades you want to do is/are metal bushings and a reinforced mechbox ((if you change the spring that is, or plan too)) __________________ _________________________________ "The hydrogen economy car from the people who brought you the 'Hindenburg'" - Glen Foster Condoms do not guarantee safe sex any more. A friend of mine wore one and was shot by the woman's husband!

August 18th, 2006, 14:44	#27
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	Well , IMO a perfect n00b gun shouldn't have to suffer this kind of problem ( barrel wobble ). Why not choose another great gun from TM that just does not suffer from any big problem. Like the Steyr AUG , MP5 , AK etc.. __________________

August 16th, 2006, 21:51	#16
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	I have a CA G36C. Noone has ever complained of them not working out of the box and mine was perfect. Having owned a TM G36 before, I can confidently say that even in the case of a real life non-metal gun, TM still falls short to CA. The glass fibre body is feels a hell of a lot better, not to mention it shoots harder and you actually get all three rails with the gun. It's just a much wiser choice to go with a gun you don't have to upgrade in any way now wouldn't you think? Especially for this new person. Get a full metal M16....

August 16th, 2006, 22:05	#17
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Here's another way to see things; pick a gun you DONT read about in the Doctor's Corner, or rarely see mentioned there for anything serious. For the rest, there's threads like What is the Best AEG. Inform yourself, follow the laws/rules. That's about it.

August 16th, 2006, 22:48	#21
stephengijo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Edmonton	Where do you get a full metal m16

August 18th, 2006, 14:29	#25
spyther Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: new jersey	I have a TM m16a2 - my first gun, and I've never played a full game with it. I keep it lying flat in cushioned surfaces, and the barrel wobbles incredibly bad. I tighten the barrel and screws all the time while cleaning it, do everything I can that isn't short of buying something for it. I just leave it to the side and use my ICS M4, works tons better. It is reliable though, it'll shoot, but probably not straight if your barrel is pointing towards 10 o'clock instead of 12.

M16 good buy for a starter?

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