TM New M4, or ICS M4

[Kid]

The ones from Canadian Airsoft do NOT have trades. See the review on Canadian Airsoft for more info and pictures.

As for them getting new stock with trades... no idea.

[Scavenger]

Well you can always get one from Tru and ask about trades, or you can get something thats already available.

[Greylocks]

I'm not saying you're an idiot, I'm saying that all it takes is ONE person who, by pure shitty luck, would see you and not know better.

I know tons of 'safe' places too, but those places are still not recognized as such. Even if the neighbour/friend/family know, please dont do the outdoors part?

What I am saying is; dont take a chance with this. If ever shit happens, you put yourself in lots of trouble, and you also put the rest of the sport in crap.

If you want to shoot outdoors, do it with a gun that is not in a grey area of the law?

[Slick]

The ICS M4 sucks. Go for the TM and buy a metal body.

[DEA]

Don't worry about the ICS quality. They are very good AEG's. As mentioned above... they both have trades, one is Colt, and ICS WAS Olympic Arms. ICS has now had the authority to use Colt trades, and the latest ICS they sent to us do in fact have the Colt trades on now too (M4's/M16's). So there you go! Both have Colt Go with the metal body! My opinion

[mcguyver]

the last batch i saw at canadian airsoft had oly-arms trades and red tip. but even money with a tm, you'd be a fool to go tm. there's no better feeling than cold metal and no barrel wobble.

[Assassassain]

Originally Posted by Greylocks

I'm not saying you're an idiot, I'm saying that all it takes is ONE person who, by pure shitty luck, would see you and not know better.

I know tons of 'safe' places too, but those places are still not recognized as such. Even if the neighbour/friend/family know, please dont do the outdoors part?

What I am saying is; dont take a chance with this. If ever shit happens, you put yourself in lots of trouble, and you also put the rest of the sport in crap.

If you want to shoot outdoors, do it with a gun that is not in a grey area of the law?

I 100% don't want to ruin the sport, you can be sure of that!
But when you go to skirmishes... what if someone happends to be hiking and see's a bunch of people with airsoft... It's practically the same, who's going to come way out here where like 4 or 5 people live? Who's going to come way out where you skirmish? Either way chances are risky, but if you REALLY don't want me to have a little fun with the kids at the acridge okay...

BTW, we should lots of 22's and occasionally the odd shotgun out there also... Think they'll still get upset if they see an airsoft gun? It's private property, and there are tons of gophers that need to be shot... If coyotes come we'll fire off a 22 into the field and scare it away, im sure an airsoft gun isnt going to matter.

[BawBag]

Bah, just tell Greylocks what he wants to hear. He's not going to know if you actually did it. AND if you are so unlucky to get caught what's he going to do then? Nothing. So just nod you're head to that Grumpy fart and do what you normally do.

[DEA]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

the last batch i saw at canadian airsoft had oly-arms trades and red tip. but even money with a tm, you'd be a fool to go tm. there's no better feeling than cold metal and no barrel wobble.

Have no idea why they would have the red tips :? but from our last order, they actually gave me the choice of weather or not we wanted the Olympic Arms trades, or the Colt. So we brought in the Colts. I'm not sure if they are just phasing out the Oly. arms, and switching to all Colt Trades, or going to continue to make both. I do know as I mentioned, that They do NOW have the athorization from Colt to produce with the Colt Trade.

[Dozer_01]

Well...one must also consider the SRC FM armalites... They cost as much as a stock TM AEG so you would be getting more of your moneys worth with SRC...

[Assassassain]

Double Edge... do you match prices that low? I'd be glad to order from you if you can match, byt that sure is a big price drop from 640 to 500...

[DEA]

Originally Posted by Assassassain

Double Edge... do you match prices that low? I'd be glad to order from you if you can match, byt that sure is a big price drop from 640 to 500...

We have ALWAYS matched anyone prices for sure. Normally, we would only match prices with anyone, or anything with in-stock items only. This is because we do NOT collect, or normally use your money, as we regularly inventory the majority of TM, ICS, G&G, ect..... And when we inventory, we bring in $20 - $30 G at a time of a particular manufacturer. So anyone out there can offer a item for $30 above cost, and if they have it all pre-ordered, or you have to wait for it all, then it's no big deal to them. However, when you try to keep inventory levels in the $200,000.00 range, and try to keep customer service at a high level, you have expenses, overhead, ect... to pay for and that low ball price does not look too much worth the trouble anymore.

So... to answer your question :-P As long as what you want is in stock from the place we are matching, then yes, we have made a comitment to match it, and we will do so for sure! Also, we do have all the ICS AEGs currently in stock as well. PM or e-mail me if you want more info, or to discuss it futher!

[mcguyver]

DEA, i think the solicitation of business by a retailer on this sight is in very poor taste. as tru owns this site, i think a certain amount of respect needs to be paid to him. business by retailers independent of this site should be kept to each retailer's own website. if a customer of your's wants to trumpet your praises, then so be it. this is a generally open forum with a free exchange of ideas and mods have kept it clean from independent business solicitation in the past and will in the future. i see no other retailers soliciting here and that "code" should be honored. but that's only my opinion.

[Greylocks]

Originally Posted by Assassassain

I 100% don't want to ruin the sport, you can be sure of that!
But when you go to skirmishes... what if someone happends to be hiking and see's a bunch of people with airsoft... It's practically the same, who's going to come way out here where like 4 or 5 people live? Who's going to come way out where you skirmish? Either way chances are risky, but if you REALLY don't want me to have a little fun with the kids at the acridge okay...
BTW, we should lots of 22's and occasionally the odd shotgun out there also... Think they'll still get upset if they see an airsoft gun? It's private property, and there are tons of gophers that need to be shot... If coyotes come we'll fire off a 22 into the field and scare it away, im sure an airsoft gun isnt going to matter.

Skirmishes and games are held on fields where this sport is already KNOWN by the authorities to happen, that is the difference.
The other difference is, stupidly enough, that you have less problems using a real gun than using an airsoft.
It has nothing to do with real vs fake, our loudness. Airsoft are still legally iffy. They will be treated as if you are using a real machine gun, with all the attached legal consequences.
Never underestimate where civilians or others may be.
But I now know you probably wont listen, so go for it and (as said) totally ignore me. Do what you want, I guess you're old enough to cope with what your actions may cause.

To those who think I worry too much; stick around for a bit longer. When you have to explain yourself to the police, maybe you'll understand my point. I hope you dont have to, and dont think it never happens.

[DEA]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

DEA, i think the solicitation of business by a retailer on this sight is in very poor taste. as tru owns this site, i think a certain amount of respect needs to be paid to him. business by retailers independent of this site should be kept to each retailer's own website. if a customer of your's wants to trumpet your praises, then so be it. this is a generally open forum with a free exchange of ideas and mods have kept it clean from independent business solicitation in the past and will in the future. i see no other retailers soliciting here and that "code" should be honored. but that's only my opinion.

No intention to offend you mcguyver... I was asked a question, and I answered it. I did not start off any solicitation.
Second.... I have seen absolutely TONS of other people on these boards promote themselves and what they sell. Are they retailers? not sure? do they sell their items, and make money? Absolutely!
Third.... I think being around for the past 7 years, I know who runs these boards, and what they are all about. I have NO issues's with Tru. On the contrary, we work together quite well, and have for a very long time! Tru knows if he has any problems with me, he will phone me, e-mail me, MSN me, or PM me. I have great respect for Tru and what he and the other Mods on these boards have done for this market.

As for everyone else....Although I follow the threads on ASC, I have not in the past couple years posted much. So I may be a little rusty on the edicate of "what questions" I'm allowed to answer and what qestions I should not! So if that is one of the "not allowed" to answer questions, then I'm sorry, and I will know for next time. And if anyone else has any more questions like "do I price match" then please just PM me or e-mail me to avoid offending anyone else. Thanks guys!