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Old December 19th, 2012, 19:23   #16
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KWA makes a lot of 1911 MEUs that are easy to find and reasonably priced. I own a KWA and I like it. No problems and I've ran a lot of BBs thru it. I don't think you'll find any CO2 for it.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 19:30   #17
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Why don't you search the retailer section, I bet there's a guy with shiny new TM & KSC Glock 18Cs in stock waiting just for you.

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Old December 19th, 2012, 19:50   #18
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Tip #1: Buy KSC.
Tip #2: There is no Tip #2.
O.RLY? I'd pick a TM pistol over KSC anytime.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 20:00   #19
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Hello everybody !

I just ordered my KWA MP7 GBB about 4 days ago, and now i'm wondering which pistol i should get.

I know there's several experienced player on this forum that could help me to find my need.

Well, i was splitted a lil bit within two options.

First, i was looking for a P226, a Glock 18C or a 1911. Full metal if possible, and new, considering i never upgraded or disasembled a gun before. Knowing this, i didn't know what brand i should choose.

And second, i plan to maybe play sometime when it's cold, like at winter or whatever. I've heard that CO2 is less affected by temperature and is more consistant on velocity. So should i buy a CO2 or a Green Gaz/Propane version of pistol. My MP7 is Green gaz, anyway i plan to buy a AEG for winter. But for pistol, what would be the best option ? And which brand ?

Hope you will be able to guide me a lil bit ! Thanks !
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Old December 19th, 2012, 21:41   #20
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I prefer buy new :/ i want to avoid problems at maximum
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Old December 19th, 2012, 21:51   #21
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No one has suggested that you buy used.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 22:47   #22
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Thanks guys for your advice ! I will definitely get a G18C, but i wonder which between KSC and TM. I know TM for quality, but i dont know if their all plastic body are as great as it seems. For sure i would but a metal slide on it.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 22:53   #23
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Thanks guys for your advice ! I will definitely get a G18C, but i wonder which between KSC and TM. I know TM for quality, but i dont know if their all plastic body are as great as it seems. For sure i would but a metal slide on it.
So you're not sure about TM's plastic frame, but you're sure about KSC's plastic frame?

Not sure what you're trying to say.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 22:56   #24
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So you're not sure about TM's plastic frame, but you're sure about KSC's plastic frame?

Not sure what you're trying to say.
Talking about the slide.

Anyway, fine. TM for the win.

But, who would be able to get one huh ? I see ehobbyasia have them in stock, can someone import it for me ? Or does a canadian retailer have one in stock ?

Everywhere i look it doesnt seems to be available, sadly
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Old December 19th, 2012, 23:07   #25
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TM plastic slides are great. But yes you can easily find a metal slide to put on.

The confusion was there because you said "all plastic body".
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Old December 19th, 2012, 23:13   #26
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I have 2 KWA pistols and compared to the 5 KJW (clear body) I've handled, I'd say my KWA were much more robust and fun to shoot.
Get something that fits well in your hands and to be honest, pistols aren't all that useful unless you're running GBB or a springer rifle. That money is better of buying you more mags for your SMG which are pretty expensive.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 23:55   #27
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As I hinted at before there is a guy in the AV retailer section that has both TM and KSC Glock 18c's in stock "as we speak".

There's nothing wrong with a KSC glock, many people like them, some would even say they're better than a TM glock, they are of course, wrong. I had a KSC glock from brand new and it gave me nothing but problems. I've also spoken to guys that have had KSC glocks for years and love them. I've never had an issue with any of my TM guns, just saying.

The hop unit in a TM has a superior design and as a result it's more accurate. The only thing metal on a glock is the slide. If you want a metal slide a TM will cost you more but you will end up with a better pistol. Don't be weary, a slide is easy to change provided you get a brand that doesn't require modifying to fit. Higher FPS doesn't mean better or more accurate. A stronger recoil spring is required for the heavier metal slide, also very easy to do. More upgrade parts internal and external exist for a TM glock, this may become a concern of yours in the future.

Neither is a bad choice IMO, but one of them is a better choice. Get the one that works best for you.

edit **If you're afraid of repairs I would recommend against a full auto pistol, they tend to break much easier. I would tell you to get a 17.

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Old December 20th, 2012, 01:22   #28
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umm since when are KSC 18Cs discontinued? For errbody out there, there is the Taiwan and the Japan version for KSC guns. Taiwan versions come with the metal slides usually. the Japanese ones don't. KSC 18Cs which are Japanese versions are discontinued yes but the Taiwan KSC still produces them with the metal slide. they are essentially the same thing since the japanese versions come with the ABS slide.

So no they are not discontinued. please specify properly if you do.

also a brief history of the difference of KWA and KSC for people saying that they are the same thing.... THEY ARE NOT

http://kwacentral.com/2012/05/11/a-b...n-ksc-and-kwa/

read and weep

on the note of KSC Glock series, they are extremely well made in my opinion obviously tho there are issues with both TM and KSC 18Cs due to the full auto function wearing down parts alot faster.

Ive owned both and even tho they are lots of fun, I wouldn't game it too hard. Ive had better luck with my KSC glock17 which only recently broke after 4 years of gaming and after i dropped it on the floor after and epic rambo last stand that i did and ended up smacking the wall very hard... anyway the point is after that the gun started going funky but that was due to brute force and years of gaming. even so the KSC 17 is a extremely robust gun and i highly recommend it. if u want budget go HK3P
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Old December 20th, 2012, 01:43   #29
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also a brief history of the difference of KWA and KSC for people saying that they are the same thing.... THEY ARE NOT
Of course they're not the same company, but their guns are designed the same and take the same parts.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 15:47   #30
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KJ KP-08 if you're into Hicapas. This is a SOLID gun and kicks strong. With the CO2 mag this can shoot up to 380fps.

Green gas mag ~ 300fps

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