what do you prefer, cqb or field?

[Renegade)]

I was always hesitant to try it, I love the outdoor games, and am not afraid to be hit up close, Flag Raiders gives you plenty of that if your aggressive, I just preferred out to in. Then a good group of guys started hosting CQB games a couple years back so I tried it, and had a pretty good time. I find it for myself personally, a good once in awhile thing, 90% will still be outside.

Keys to CQB are to have a light, fast target aquisition sight, and make sure the gun is shooting where you are aiming. I use black bb's inside for that very reason, sight in outside with white, then your pretty much assured that wherever your sight is, your going to hit. Either armor up 100%, or as much as you need, full face is a definite.

[Berkut]

Originally Posted by CR0M

Being good at airsoft im not really concerned with, having a good time is all i care about. Ive had great times at games where ive been a bb magnet. I gotta admit im kind of skeptical of ttac3. It looks like a maze inside a very small area, it looks alot like a "surprise your hit" kind of venue. What would you say sets it apart from other cqb venues?

Why skeptical?

Regular set up is "small maze" just like your apartment, or an office space. It simulates close quarters. We have build apartment sized layouts including furniture and doors there - pain in the ass to work in, as well as more open alley type set ups.

"surprise your hit"? You bet! not sure if you came across it before, but one of mantras of CQB is "Speed, surprise, and violence of action". On a good night TTAC3 has all those and then some.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by CR0M

Being good at airsoft im not really concerned with, having a good time is all i care about. Ive had great times at games where ive been a bb magnet. I gotta admit im kind of skeptical of ttac3. It looks like a maze inside a very small area, it looks alot like a "surprise your hit" kind of venue. What would you say sets it apart from other cqb venues?

It will be a "Surprise your hit" situation if you don't have the skills to exploit the environment.

But it is a great place to develop those skills

TTAC3 is not your typical gaming venue.

Scenarios are short, and quickly repeated.

it is a small space, about 4000 square feet .. but a lot of fun can be had in that space,

and a lot of learning.

[Swattiger]

With the opening of more high quality outdoor paintball fields, I only go for outdoor fields to enjoy the great weather in summer.

Outdoor field is a good testing ground for airsoft assult rifles, support machine guns, sniper rifles.

Many of them have good CQB arenas but also can cater for large group game. No need to stick in the same tiny indoor field all the time.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Swattiger

With the opening of more high quality outdoor paintball fields, I only go for outdoor fields to enjoy the great weather in summer.

Outdoor field is a good test ground for airsoft assult rifles, support machine guns, sniper rifles.

Many of them have good CQB arenas but also can cater for large group game. No need to stick in the same tiny indoor field all the time.

This is one of the main issues with indoor venues, the repeat playability.

Once you have been to a place a few times you learn all the angles and spots..

most play ends up being a rush to get to those spots.. and the games end up becoming re-runs very quickly.

Unless you have a smart host that can come up with scenarios that use the space in innovative ways most indoor field enjoy a "honeymoon" of intense interest .. then players get bored with playing the same old game in the same old space and attendance drops off.

This is where TTAC3 is different.. the set up changes every time.. Often the setup will change during the night. We can build pretty much any kind of CQB environment you may want .. from open and airy.. to closed and scary.

I run games every week ( pretty much ) and they are generally sold out, and we've been doing it for over 7 years.. we must be doing something right.

[DrDoUm]

Personnaly, I don't necessarily have a preference between one or the other... I've played various games on the same fields and each time the dynamic of the game varies depending on the scenarios, objective and group of players.

I don't know about Ontario, but around here we have (had) access to great CQB fields. What makes them great to me is that they are (were) actual closed down buildings. It seems to me more realistic to have engagement in life size rooms instead of garden sheds. We also play on paintball fields, but then again some outdoor fields around here have large scale villages which offer plenty of space for CQB engagements.

As Brian said, I think CQB requires to develop specific skills and team coordination and that's what I like about it. The OP mentionned that he didn't really care about "being good"... in my case, I get my kicks when I feel I'm improving or that I did a good maneouvre with my teamates. I find that in CQB, you really need to be methodical and have good team coordination. Since the pace is faster, if you lose contact with your teammates you'll get caught up pretty fast.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by DrDoUm

As Brian said, I think CQB requires to develop specific skills and team coordination and that's what I like about it. The OP mentionned that he didn't really care about "being good"... in my case, I get my kicks when I feel I'm improving or that I did a good maneouvre with my teamates. I find that in CQB, you really need to be methodical and have good team coordination. Since the pace is faster, if you lose contact with your teammates you'll get caught up pretty fast.

In my experience, If you don't care about improving performance, your performance will never improve.

I've seen it, guys who have been in the game for years.. but still handle their tools like it's the first day on the job.

It begins to suck when you are being slaughtered by guys in the game for 6 months who have invested in training and skills development.

[Endymion]

CQB or field. It's really comparing apples to oranges. Your loadout, choice of equipment, tactics and play style can all vary quite dramatically between the two, and even from venue to venue you will find some significant differences.

Originally Posted by CR0M

Being good at airsoft im not really concerned with, having a good time is all i care about. Ive had great times at games where ive been a bb magnet. I gotta admit im kind of skeptical of ttac3. It looks like a maze inside a very small area, it looks alot like a "surprise your hit" kind of venue. What would you say sets it apart from other cqb venues?

Several years ago when I first got into airsoft, TTAC3 was one of the first places I explored. Yes, it looks small from pics. And yes, when you first walk in there, it is rather small. However, the modular wall system they implement allows for an endless number of possible configurations and scenarios.

Regardless whether you prefer CQB or outdoor games, try different venues and give them all a chance. Try them multiple times. Different locations and different players (even at the same location) will be different experiences, and you may just discover a new fave venue and meet some cool new people who end up being great close friends.

[CR0M]

I only said i wasnt concerned... Some games im rambo some games i suck, most of the time i do ok...

I really liked the cqb field at SOF field but it was so big and out doors I considered it a hybrid mostly fieldish... And picton indoors felt amazing but the realism made it what it was

[tygr701]

I like both types don't really have a preference either way. Each has its own unique qualities. CQB is more intense and fast paced action. You really have to think quick on your feet. In the larger fields I find its a lot more strategy/tactics oriented. If you weren't a fan of splatters I would suggest CQB paintball. It has a wide variety of structures and is an "outdoor" CQB field. You need a decent flashlight for splatters at times because it does tend to be dark in certain areas.

[phloudernow]

I really like both outdoor and indoor fields, but thats very vague, i really like urban outdoor fields that have CQB fighting in it as well. I dont like alot of the CQB fields here, for example splatters, since the ground in general isnt that great for playing. The sand really pisses me off. i can deal with the paint on the walls but the sand just prevents one from playing properly. You cant run properly without tripping on a mound of sand and it feels awkward.

I think the best field i played in so far is Wasaga Paintball, good mixture of urban type fields with forest.

Overall i still miss playing airsoft back in Hong Kong they have some of the best CQB fields there

[Taxt]

Originally Posted by CR0M

maybe it was just the dim light of sgt splatters but I couldnt see any of my bbs' , and I couldnt tell where I was getting hit from and because I couldnt see my bbs I wasnt sure if I was hitting anyone or if someone else hit them.

I know these places share with paintballers, not a huge deal for me, but I would imagine that if you prefer cqb you must get tired of cleaning up paint no?

Splatters sucks.

Go here http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...36#post1662736


TTAC is also very good.

[Rommen]

PRZ in Picton is a great CQB facility and worth the drive. For those who don't know it is an abandoned mental health facility and consists of 3 buildings, one is 1 story, one is 2 stories and the last is 3 stories tall. It has a small village constructed in the field out front. LOTS of halls and rooms. It blows TTAC out of the water, but the downside is it is a 3 hour drive away.

[Curo]

Yea but PRZ also lost its insurance. Thats why we aren't playing there for Rhino. Plus I think this new Rhino location will blow PRZ out of the water.

[Rusty Lugnuts]

When did prz lose their insurance? I think that some of the kingston guys had a training day there recently.

EDIT I just talked to them and They have insurance and are open.