What would you have between normal AEG vs PTW when you got money??

[T_A_N_K]

There is no infatuation with PTW's, they are just far superior in every way than your out of the box AEG, even highly upgraded ones. Yes it is expensive, but so is airsoft. If you compare how much it costs to upgrade an AEG with premium parts, labour, your right around the cost of a PTW, if not more.

It is a true 1 to 1 replica, the trigger is as crisp as a GBBR and its a tack diver. No need to downgrade or upgrade for indoor or outdoor season.

I've used all sorts of AEG's, some tuned to shoot just as good and as far as a PTW.

If you ever shot a PTW you would know what I'm talking about.

When they first came out, I told myself I would never buy one, not for that much money. Year or two later, I ended up owning one. I still regret selling mine. There is no comparison, its in its own league, just like AEG's vs GBBR's.

If I had to do it all over, I would have bought a PTW. I would have saved a whole ton of money and lots of grief. But this is hit and miss, depends on the PTW. Some work great, some don't. Until PTW's have more selection, there will always be a spot for an AEG.

[ThunderCactus]

Well I know for a solid, field tested fact, that it's possible to have an AEG shoot just as well as a PTW.
The problem, like Mac said, is it's a game of chance.
You really have to luck out with all the best externals, get a pro-gunsmith, and have all the right internals to get it shooting right. And in the end it's a totally custom build, nobody is gonna do it the same way twice, it's hard to replicate the results.
Or you can just buy a PTW and get that performance out of the box for an extra $500 or so.

You can have REALLY good AEGs, but if you want top tier performance that doesn't require you to be a crack gunsmith, get the PTW lol

[SuperCriollo]

How about a CTW? Are they any good?

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by SuperCriollo

How about a CTW? Are they any good?

The conesus seem to be that they're good after you chnage bunch of parts for PTW ones.

[lurkingknight]

Originally Posted by T_A_N_K

There is no infatuation with PTW's, they are just far superior in every way than your out of the box AEG, even highly upgraded ones. Yes it is expensive, but so is airsoft. If you compare how much it costs to upgrade an AEG with premium parts, labour, your right around the cost of a PTW, if not more.

It is a true 1 to 1 replica, the trigger is as crisp as a GBBR and its a tack diver. No need to downgrade or upgrade for indoor or outdoor season.

I've used all sorts of AEG's, some tuned to shoot just as good and as far as a PTW.

If you ever shot a PTW you would know what I'm talking about.

When they first came out, I told myself I would never buy one, not for that much money. Year or two later, I ended up owning one. I still regret selling mine. There is no comparison, its in its own league, just like AEG's vs GBBR's.

If I had to do it all over, I would have bought a PTW. I would have saved a whole ton of money and lots of grief. But this is hit and miss, depends on the PTW. Some work great, some don't. Until PTW's have more selection, there will always be a spot for an AEG.

hmm, guess I'd have to hold one longer than 15 minutes in daylight with people to shoot at rather than pick black at night :P

[Reckless]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

There are tons of them in your area, likely a hundred or more. Lots on the island for years as well.

Yup I play on the Island, while the PTW concentration at games has twindled (the players with them are less frequent to games now adays, life and such) they are here .. and all over vancouver .. actually funny fact I remember the vancouver guys comming over for a game and all the Vancouver PTW's could only use X BB and all the vancouver island PTW's could only use a different brand BB ... both had the same chopping and hiccups .. but 2 completely different BB's for either side


There is no more rock-solid work gun than a PTW.

Aye, they are really nice... 95% of any issue I've seen through all the PTW's on the field only required a simple rebuild kit


Well, you could chose to spend more money on several AEGs, and be fixing them, tweaking them, modding them. I'll take 1 PTW.


It does help that my real AR is purpose built just like each of my PTWs have been. I can use the same gear for both.

Yup... 1 thing I won't argue is the validity of the PTW in airsoft... biggest things I think for me is I seem to gravitate towards the wierd side of guns for airsoft... I seem to have to do alot to an M4 platform for it to be comfortable, I'm a rifle "kid" I grew up shooting a .303 lee enfield and a 30-06

however .. the PTW MP5 has caught my intrest... I just never seem to be able to pool the resources when I catch one available

it's a personal preference ... PTW's are wicked and given the prices within canada for a high end aeg tuned and tweaked to achieve the same range and accuracy etc of a PTW .. the price of a PTW isn't much of a stretch... just the initial shell out instead of nickle and diming you to death build up ...

[ThunderCactus]

I heard they stopped making the TW5

[T_A_N_K]

Yup that's why you don't see em around they never really took off.

[John Spartan]

A further comment for your consideration ...

Aside from the quality of the PTW the one other reason I decided to buy one is that it is a multi-environment platform.

You need a CQB weapon firing under 300fps, no issue, swap to the black cylinder.

You need 400+ fps for a long range engagement, no issue, swap to a gold cylinder.

No need to take apart your AEG to swap springs. A PTW cylinder is much cheaper then buying multiple AEGs equipped with different spring types in my opinion.

Unless you want different AEGs for variety a single PTW with supporting accesories can do it all.

[Fox62]

I always thought PTW's were (expensive) crap. How far and precise (grouping-wise) are we talking OOTB? I've had AEG's that ran for two years straight, haven't even had to open them yet. For example, a CYMA AK that came shooting at 400, was getting consistent shots at 170 ft., very reliable platform as well.
One of the people who posted even said he's needed 4 AEGs to be able to play, since they kept failing on him. That sounds like BS; I have a GBBR DMR, an AEG and a GBB Pistol, they never fail during a game with a couple of exceptions, because I keep them well maintained and take good care of them, make sure they are battle-ready every time. I don't see the need to have two AEGs, much less four O.o, I think that post was plain "Hey, I spent 1500 bucks on a PTW, now I gotta justify it.".


Fox.

[Fox62]

Originally Posted by John Spartan

A further comment for your consideration ...

Aside from the quality of the PTW the one other reason I decided to buy one is that it is a multi-environment platform.

You need a CQB weapon firing under 300fps, no issue, swap to the black cylinder.

You need 400+ fps for a long range engagement, no issue, swap to a gold cylinder.

No need to take apart your AEG to swap springs. A PTW cylinder is much cheaper then buying multiple AEGs equipped with different spring types in my opinion.

Unless you want different AEGs for variety a single PTW with supporting accesories can do it all.

Have you tried the Umarex G36 "V" series? Quick spring change, fully licensed, EBB, tough GB. I can get that for 200 bucks. 30 bucks for two or three springs (which you can swap in 10 seconds), and that leaves a nice margin to spend on whatever else I want to spend my money on.
To further feed my opinion of the PTWs being useless, I remember a guy that had his fail because the sensor that detects the mag's outta BBs had some dust on it. LOL, super reliable.

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Fox62

To further feed my opinion of the PTWs being useless, I remember a guy that had his fail because the sensor that detects the mag's outta BBs had some dust on it. LOL, super reliable.

I call bluff on that, as there is no optical sensor to detect when the mag run's dry. It's a switch that needs to be physically tripped.

And even on failure, the default is the ability to continue to fire, even with no rounds present.

[Fox62]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

I call bluff on that, as there is no optical sensor to detect when the mag run's dry. It's a switch that needs to be physically tripped.

And even on failure, the default is the ability to continue to fire, even with no rounds present.

Are you sure on that? Well, that's what he said, I didn't just come up with it. In case there's no PTW that works with a sensor of sorts, I withdraw that example, since either he didn't know what he was saying, or I misunderstood it.
So it's a similar thing to the WE M4 mag?


Fox.

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Fox62

Are you sure on that? Well, that's what he said, I didn't just come up with it. In case there's no PTW that works with a sensor of sorts, I withdraw that example, since either he didn't know what he was saying, or I misunderstood it.
So it's a similar thing to the WE M4 mag?


Fox.

I service PTW's, and I have one sitting in front of me right now... so yes, I'm pretty sure of it.

All guns that have a bolt lockout when the mag runs dry works on the same principle, of a follower that physically trips the bolt stop mechanism, whether it be a lever or a switch to open the electronic circuit.

[Fox62]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

I service PTW's, and I have one sitting in front of me right now... so yes, I'm pretty sure of it.

All guns that have a bolt lockout when the mag runs dry works on the same principle, of a follower that physically trips the bolt stop mechanism, whether it be a lever or a switch to open the electronic circuit.

Use the search function for "sensor" HERE. Look at the first entry. I don't doubt your expertise, but what's that manual referring to, then? What else is a (verbatim from that file) "sensor that will cut off electricity to the motor once it has sensed that the magazine is emptied."?


Fox.