help with badass grenadier kit?

[Reckless]

hehe.. yeah I know looks don't mean effective ... the title of the thread didn't mean I was doing it to look like a badass.. but you know, hauling a 6banger launcher on the field, the feeling of badassery is there

theres a reason I put up the thread just want ideas for the setup ...

[Con Murder]

Well if you want to be a versatile bad ass, get a few different kinds of 40mm. I have used the mb xm108 for a season and its nice on 550 psi (Iplay in a field as well). The next two nades I will be grabbing is the MB 8mm Co2 shell and the paintball/bb/powder shell for this season. The 8mm for some close up bush battles and the multi-purpose shell to obscure vision or kill and be fast to refill. If this seems to work as nice as I hope I will buy another of each to keep at the respawn, as three on my person is the max I can carry with the load out I use.

I imagine if you had it set up right (ammo wieght) the lower number shells could be just as effective or more.

[Reckless]

basically for the grenades.. I want to clear 100ft basically level shot... more when lobed... so basically trying to get the biggest shells that fit in the GLM and run on CO2

not ditching the deagles... they are my go to guns.. my reliables.. my babies! (dramatic enough?) .. carrying weight doesn't bother me I'm not a small guy, and I work for a living (ran a saw for while, and M14's including an EBR)

ofcourse the main objective is mobility, but versitility is always there too.. start with an idea, take suggestions.. modify loadout as needed

keep em comin though guys

[Hightimes]

Originally Posted by Reckless

basically for the grenades.. I want to clear 100ft basically level shot... more when lobed... so basically trying to get the biggest shells that fit in the GLM and run on CO2

not ditching the deagles... they are my go to guns.. my reliables.. my babies! (dramatic enough?) .. carrying weight doesn't bother me I'm not a small guy, and I work for a living (ran a saw for while, and M14's including an EBR)

ofcourse the main objective is mobility, but versitility is always there too.. start with an idea, take suggestions.. modify loadout as needed

keep em comin though guys

If you could.. Tell me where you ordered yours

Thanks

[Infantryman]

I use a M203 on my C7, and I find that just using a C9/M249 ammo pouch ( or two, or three) works just fine.
You can hold roughly 10-12 grenades in a pouch.
I like using a large pouch for my 40mm because its a lot quicker and easier to reload when all I have to do is reach into a big pouch full of 40mm.
(BTW, this is just for normal size 40mm rounds. Obviously, you won't be able to fit as many rounds in the pouch/s if you are using those long shells)

Set them up properly of course. Don't just throw em in there and hope for the best.

Also, I would definately use a really good dump pouch. Preferably, one with an elastic band to keep your spend rounds in there. Or, you could just throw em into another C9/M249 ammo pouch.

Hope this helps!

P.S. It is possible to run around with 30 M203 rounds, 3 grenades, 2 smoke grenades and 10-15 mags, plus whatever else you need...You just gotta push yourself harder than everyone else

[wildcard]

Currently my grenadier loadout will include my CAW revolver and my King arms M79 as a back up I have my trusty G19 with 4 mags, if the day require me to be a dedicated 40mm I usually will load up to 60 x Kings and Cherries nades and another 60 on standby in case if I need them.

Get yourself a custom vest (like I do) there are a few gear makers here that can do that for you, I have a custom 30rnds vest that will fit my Kings and my cherries )Madbull XP204 and XP108 CO2nades) plus if I want to be a real asshole I have two 8rnd drop leg 40MM pouch

it is possible to run around with 40+40mm just be nice to your local bastard rep

[coach]

Originally Posted by Reckless

basically for the grenades.. I want to clear 100ft basically level shot... more when lobed... so basically trying to get the biggest shells that fit in the GLM and run on CO2

not ditching the deagles... they are my go to guns.. my reliables.. my babies! (dramatic enough?) .. carrying weight doesn't bother me I'm not a small guy, and I work for a living (ran a saw for while, and M14's including an EBR)

ofcourse the main objective is mobility, but versitility is always there too.. start with an idea, take suggestions.. modify loadout as needed

keep em comin though guys

CO2 or bust. Propane sucks for outdoors and stinks too much for indoors. Just adjust your co2 psi when going indoors.

For your launcher on CO2 you can only fit the madbull xm108HP (cherries) and xmpb4 (multipurpose). But do you have the ICS? Reason I ask in because the ICS internals are plastic and will break on CO2.

At 600psi you can clear 75-100 feet with little to no arc fairly easily. We've gone beyond that with up to 800-900psi. BUT BE FOREWARNED, YOU NEED TO OBSERVE YOU MED! No excuses. At 600psi you can do a lot of damage to someone and you don't want to get yourself kicked out. Even with proper med's in place, it can still hurt. I know quiet a few who have been on the receiving end of countless 6mm bukkakke and weren't terribly happy about it. lol Well a few specifically.

How many mags do you intend to carry with 2 desert eagles? Personally, I'd drop the pair of desert eagles and go with just one. Or my recommendation would be to go with an smg or something like the g18c with full auto. Having run grenades many times, your not going to do much if you run heavy. Wildcard is the exception, because he's nuts. 30-46 nades plus 6 + 1 loaded is a lot of weight. Your 18 is reasonable but you still better have a good dump pouch system that can support the weight. ie. Run a belt with a dump and wear suspenders. Don't attach whatever rig you run to the belt. Also, when there's a lull in the fire fight, transition nades from your strong side to your weak side then move spent mags into the empty pouches on your right side. I'm assuming your right handed, so you would load from left to right and shoot with your right (strong) hand.

[Reckless]

hey wildcard... what's your take on the 108HP madbull rounds? ...
those are probably what I'll be going with ... what kinda weight BB, range, pressure ?
I'll probably grab a few proarms 68's for the cqb fields

the m249 pouch thing actually sounds more my style ... I think I'll give that a go for now, and talk to some people about a custom vest

[coach]

Originally Posted by Reckless

hey wildcard... what's your take on the 108HP madbull rounds? ...
those are probably what I'll be going with ... what kinda weight BB, range, pressure ?
I'll probably grab a few proarms 68's for the cqb fields

the m249 pouch thing actually sounds more my style ... I think I'll give that a go for now, and talk to some people about a custom vest

I can answer that for him as they are awesome!

the XM108HP, XM204HP (too long for revolver) and the XMPB4's are the best you can get and use.

you cannot go wrong with the XM108's (108 BB's) in your setup. If you want a bit more spread for room clearing, use the XMPB4's (50-60 BB's) but you will also get really good range out of them too.



For CQB fields, adjust your CO2 psi instead of running different nades. it will save you money in the long run.

[Reckless]

I am receiving the ICS ... and yeah I know about the plastic stuff, hopefully it will survive long enough so I can get my hands on a CAW ... or I will be able to reinforce the insides if/when needed.

I'm off work at the moment awaiting scheduling for carpal tunnel surgery on both wrists (yippee! .. ugh ) ... so I've got some time to get this all worked out and running...

I also have a couple AEG loadouts to choose from too, so this won't be my normal set up... just something fun and for sims and stuff

Wildcard and Coachster ... any and all insight you can offer would be appreciated


Hightimes : local retailer is bringing me in one as a favor with alot of pleading, begging, and harassing since it hit the market ... basically a one time thing. honestly I'm not paying much less then a caw off rap4 ... but they weren't in stock.

[wildcard]

Originally Posted by Reckless

hey wildcard... what's your take on the 108HP madbull rounds? ...
those are probably what I'll be going with ... what kinda weight BB, range, pressure ?
I'll probably grab a few proarms 68's for the cqb fields

the m249 pouch thing actually sounds more my style ... I think I'll give that a go for now, and talk to some people about a custom vest

108HP are awesome especially with .25 bastard or madbulls, depending on the day I usually run it at around 650psi if I play with friends its usually around 550psi. From what I heard and seen the ICS revolver launcher can't fire the CO2 nades especially at that high pressure some of my former teammates in HK have had trigger failures that plagued the G&P M203 with the madbulls HP 108 and HP204 operating at 500-700psi, the trigger snapped, so be careful. Even with my King arms M79 the firing pin have started to show some major wear (time for a steel pin upgrade)

[coach]

Oh, I forgot. BB's I use garbage BB's in .2 and .25 as the main supply but will also include used 28's, and on occasion .12's.

for a nice spread with the xmpb4's I'll add some .12's to the mix. xxxx xxxx xx the BB's xxxxx xxxxx, xxxx are xxxxxxx xxxxx to the xxxxxxxxx .xx's which xxxxx xxx xxxx xxxxxxx and xxxxxx xxx xxxx but start xxxxxxxx xxxxxx than the xxxx.


aww rats! my secrets out...ya right! fat chance!

For a safe PSI to work with until you know your MED, 400-600 psi max.

[Reckless]

heh.. no worries coachster, I'll figure it out

so ... 108hps .. and pb4's ... kay ...

yeah I'm watchful of my MED's ... theres been a few times I've been hit because I refused to take the shot even with my pistol

[wildcard]

Do's and Don't of MadbullXP nades

- Do have some spare o-rings and bearings in your kit
- Contrary to the myths these nades do need TLC from time to time, if you are like me, a nade man keep some saturday as nades maintanance day, disassembled, lubed, replace damaged orings and assembly of all nades will take you more than 6 hrs
- DO NOT leave your nades out in the sun, they will blow.
- DO NOT put cheap ass bbs in they will tear up your o-rings, if you can't afford to put good shit in there then you don't deserve to run it
- in an enclosed area try to shoot the nades at the wall, roof, floor etc. direct fire from a 108 at close range is about bad as going to a jay Z concert with a KKK outfit (You will get your ass kicked)
- when in doubt if anyone refused to call their hit after the first shot, don't be afraid to let loose a few more, over time they will realised that not calling their hit especially indoors when the other guy have a fucking 6mm bukake cannon is not so smart.
- always offer mercy, if your tango is stupid enough not to take it then......your call!


I'm sure I'm forgetting a few things so Coach step in please.....

[coach]

You got most of it. Though I should clarify that yes, junk BB's can tear apart your retaining oring but I'm also not talking about BB's with obvious seams. Just BB's I wouldn't put down my rifle.

Okay so a few more do's and don'ts:

- Don't load the BB's before gassing the nades. Though I k ow of one guy who does it on necessity since it wouldn't be safe to loaf and gas all his nades prior to arriving at the field.

- Do wear googles if you have to gas them after you load them

- Do advise others when you are gassing loaded nades and ask them to put on eye wear

- Do get a couple extra hand loaders to facilitate loading. With several nades, it makes actually loading time go by faster since you're not constantly filling the loader.

- Do keep loaded and gassed nades in their pouches until ready to use.

- Don't leave a loaded and gassed nade in the sun when using CO2. (this includes your CO2 tank) 'cooking' the nade will cause the valve to become twitchy and I have personally seen an xm108 launch itself 50' when the operator was simply dropping it into the revolver. Yes, he ate a mouthful of BB's but didn't take a, solid hunk of metal, mortar in the face.

As with Wildcard, I'm sure there's more to add