Pet peeve - how the term FMU is thrown around in sales threads

[SHaKaL]

Originally Posted by pusangani

Ooh man, name names!

+1!

[wildcard]

Originally Posted by pusangani

Ooh man, name names!

I'll wait till it gets really ridiculous but so far they are all nubs the oldest one joined in 09, the other 4 are this year

[Rugger_can]

Originally Posted by wildcard

I'll wait till it gets really ridiculous but so far they are all nubs the oldest one joined in 09, the other 4 are this year

Please for the love of the airsofting karmic gods. Don't sell that beautiful gun to someone like that.



On topic.


People who fail to accurately and honestly describe an item fully are usually trying to hide something so that they can ask for more money then it is worth. If you describe an item accurately and honestly and it doesnt sell.. lower the price slightly or wait longer.

Honesty is paramount. If there's a minor cosmetic scratch on a gun. Or 6 parts are missing these are things that should be noted on a sales thread.



cheers.

[Dart]

again my point stands. Its up to the seller to disclose it all but its also up to the buyer to research and ask questions. Ask anyone I have dealt with I usually get them on msn and ask tonnes of questions. I hate getting shafted.

[wind953]

+1 to the pictures pet peeve. I swear I saw an ad once that said something along the lines of "I'm NOT gonna post pictures of the gun...ASK me for it..if you really want it, you'll ask". That guy must be new to sell/buy. Either that or he thinks every buyer is a dumb buyer.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by wind953

+1 to the pictures pet peeve. I swear I saw an ad once that said something along the lines of "I'm NOT gonna post pictures of the gun...ASK me for it..if you really want it, you'll ask". That guy must be new to sell/buy. Either that or he thinks every buyer is a dumb buyer.

I don't care what's described.. I won't even bother with a sale thread that has no pictures. IMO is pretty arrogant for a seller to think what they have is SO awesome you'll PM them begging for pictures. Got news for sellers like that: pleanty more where that came from. If you can't be bothered to post a pic or two, I can't be bothered to ask you for them. Airsoft in Canada is more of a buyers market now than it's ever been. I'm not going to waist my time with sellers that make it harder for me to buy their stuff.

The ASC classifieds is seriously degrading into a big fucking joke. I'm at the point now where any gun I buy on the classifieds has to be BNIB and from a VERY ruputable member or retailer.

Now I'll admit, I've misued the FMU acronym thinking it meant "full metal unit". However, I've also completely described every item I've sold making it perfectly clear what's metal and what isn't. I haven't got any complaints. However I'll make sure I use the term correctly from now on.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

I've never posted pictures... but then I insist on face to face deals .. so people see the item, pick it up.. test fire ( if applicable ) and then buy.

[mcguyver]

Perhaps there should be rules.

No pictures, add gets deleted.

No trade disputes allowed whatsoever, caveat emptor.

Trader rating feedback mandatory, good or bad, the people need to know.

Clear description of item being sold. Vague, misleading or false statements lead to thread deletion and sanctions with no warnings.

People need to act like adults and not 14 year olds with ADD.

But that goes without saying.

I have a solid trader rating for a reason. It's really not that hard to put in some effort to ensure smooth dealings.

[Kokanee]

Crunch, I just came across this post, I have to share a little bit of history with you as unfortunately you are mistaken.

FMU= "Full Metal Unit" was started wayyy back in the days when people like Tru and Bubba were around. It originally meant "full metal unit", but over the years it's also been used interchangeably w/ "full metal upgrade".

Now, I can totally agree with people advertising "FMU" for a partially metal item as wrong, but people are going to use "FMU" for metal upgraded and metal stock guns, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

I wouldn't have wasted my time on a full page rant, but hey did did start a nice debate on problems in the buy/sell.

[Spawn28]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

Perhaps there should be rules.

No pictures, add gets deleted.

No trade disputes allowed whatsoever, caveat emptor.

Trader rating feedback mandatory, good or bad, the people need to know.

Clear description of item being sold. Vague, misleading or false statements lead to thread deletion and sanctions with no warnings.

People need to act like adults and not 14 year olds with ADD.

But that goes without saying.

I have a solid trader rating for a reason. It's really not that hard to put in some effort to ensure smooth dealings.

+1

[pusangani]

I don't know about the Buyer Beware part tho, some people really try to pull some fast ones, and these people need to be exposed, if you get blatantly ripped off you would want a refund as well.

Granted some buyers are just generally clueless and like to assume too much, and they can be a problem as well.

[m102404]

I always thought it meant Full Metal Unit. What should be metal is metal...this is an absolute term.

Upgrade...is a hugely subjective term. i.e. would everyone consider a Guarder 226 kit an upgrade? is a Dboys CASV on a PTW an upgrade? is putting a Gen1 Dboys body on a perfectly good TM an upgrade? is putting that same body on a broken CA M15 body an upgrade?

Stock means what should be stock is stock, same parts that it left the factory with...this is an absolute term. Might be opened, might be worn...but should be stock parts.

Brand New means unused, not fired, etc... (this term should be absolute but is abused but easily addressed)

Nearly New/Like New/Gamed Just # of Games....are subjective terms.


Whenever the buyer and seller have two different interpretations...you get issues. Even if they're on the same page...there'll still be issues at times, but those are usually easily resolved.

Anyways...final responsibility rests with the buyer...'cause it's their money.