Systema PTW Basic Info and FAQ

ILLusion · August 30th, 2013, 03:38

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Originally Posted by GBBR

I'm ignorant of all things systema but wouldn't a stronger spring help hold it down more?

If it's too strong, it will actually overcome the follower spring's weight, causing it to incorrectly register the magazine as still having ammunition.

Maybe I just need to find a replacement spring that's weaker...

GBBR · August 30th, 2013, 04:16

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Originally Posted by ILLusion

If it's too strong, it will actually overcome the follower spring's weight, causing it to incorrectly register the magazine as still having ammunition.

Maybe I just need to find a replacement spring that's weaker...

So, long story short, a spring with the right tension is what's needed? Why doesn't systema just make springs with the right tension... I'm so lost here

Azathoth · August 30th, 2013, 12:31

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Originally Posted by GBBR

So, long story short, a spring with the right tension is what's needed? Why doesn't systema just make springs with the right tension... I'm so lost here

They DO make springs with the right tension. However those small springs wear out over time. Each time you insert a mag or run a mag 'empty' the springs is being 'used'. Each time you bump into something that taps the bolt stop it's being activated. Dirt/Debris gets trapped behind the bolt stop blah blah blah. lots of reason for the spring to wear down or for the bolt stop to not function as it should.

It is the most common "DERP my gun doesn't work WTF" problem with the PTW that is user or environmentally induced.

Brian,

PM me, I can get parts direct from the factory no problem. I may have a spring sitting in packaging.

mcguyver · August 30th, 2013, 14:13

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Originally Posted by ILLusion

That's how the PTW is supposed to operate...

If the mag if out of the gun, the gun should fire. If it doesn't, there is a problem.

If mag is in the gun and empty, gun should not fire.

If mag is in the gun and full, gun should fire.

No mag in real AR, gun will fire, bolt will not lock open.

SuperHog · August 31st, 2013, 13:28

Is there any aftermarket grips for the PTW? I have Magpul on all my AEGs, and the stock PTW grips simply suck.

ThunderCactus · August 31st, 2013, 14:02

yes. lots.

mcguyver · August 31st, 2013, 14:02

You can buy an FCC MOE, but it is not the MOE+, so there is a huge gap around the endplate. I custom cut my own MIADs.

You can buy alot if other grips from many other companies, like G&P, King Arms, etc..

SuperHog · August 31st, 2013, 14:27

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

yes. lots.

I want a drop in. Don't want to spend time to mod it to fit.

Checked DTT, and don't list the FCC MOE+

ILLusion · August 31st, 2013, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver

If the mag if out of the gun, the gun should fire. If it doesn't, there is a problem.

If mag is in the gun and empty, gun should not fire.

If mag is in the gun and full, gun should fire.

No mag in real AR, gun will fire, bolt will not lock open.

Yes, this is correct. Apologies, I was referring to once the bolt locks, if you eject the magazine, the gun won't fire till the bolt catch is hit.

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Originally Posted by SuperHog

Is there any aftermarket grips for the PTW? I have Magpul on all my AEGs, and the stock PTW grips simply suck.

Like Brad, I've modded my own real MIAD to fit. And as he suggested, there's also lots on the aftermarket.

Off the top of my head, G&P does the regular A2 grip, as well as M4 Storm, SPR, and Tango Down grips. King Arms does G27 and Tango Down. I believe all of these grips come with metal cover plates for the base as well.

mcguyver · August 31st, 2013, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperHog

I want a drop in. Don't want to spend time to mod it to fit.

Checked DTT, and don't list the FCC MOE+

I don't believe that they make an MOE+, just an MOE.

SuperHog · August 31st, 2013, 15:43

Don't like the ones from G&P and KA.

All my AEG have Magpul, so I prefer the same for the PTW so the grip feel and comfort is the same.

I may just have to modify a Magpul to fit one on.

ILLusion · August 31st, 2013, 15:53

It's a bit of work, but once installed, it's pretty awesome:

SuperHog · September 1st, 2013, 00:16

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Originally Posted by ILLusion

It's a bit of work, but once installed, it's pretty awesome:

I like! Is that a PTW?

ThunderCactus · September 1st, 2013, 01:44

the FCC MOE grip is fine, it just has a gap in the end plate. Just don't get any dirt up in there and it'll be fine.

SuperHog · September 1st, 2013, 10:29

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

the FCC MOE grip is fine, it just has a gap in the end plate. Just don't get any dirt up in there and it'll be fine.

The gap has been mention several times. What does the gap look like?

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August 31st, 2013, 13:28	#275
SuperHog Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Aftermarket PTW grips Is there any aftermarket grips for the PTW? I have Magpul on all my AEGs, and the stock PTW grips simply suck.

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mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	You can buy an FCC MOE, but it is not the MOE+, so there is a huge gap around the endplate. I custom cut my own MIADs. You can buy alot if other grips from many other companies, like G&P, King Arms, etc.. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

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ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	It's a bit of work, but once installed, it's pretty awesome: __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

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ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	yes. lots.

August 31st, 2013, 15:43	#281
SuperHog Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Don't like the ones from G&P and KA. All my AEG have Magpul, so I prefer the same for the PTW so the grip feel and comfort is the same. I may just have to modify a Magpul to fit one on.

September 1st, 2013, 01:44	#284
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	the FCC MOE grip is fine, it just has a gap in the end plate. Just don't get any dirt up in there and it'll be fine.

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