Systema PTW Basic Info and FAQ

morati · October 5th, 2010, 15:56

My apologies if this doesn't belong here but......Is there a Systema Dealer in Canada?

kolumbo69 · October 5th, 2010, 18:04

Imperial Airsoft from calgary alberta is Now a canadian retailer and has ptw's in stock.

Imperialairsoft.com

morati · October 5th, 2010, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolumbo69

Imperial Airsoft from calgary alberta is Now a canadian retailer and has ptw's in stock.

Imperialairsoft.com

Much Appreciated!

mcguyver · November 10th, 2010, 01:33

I'm going to add a small update, seeing as I noticed retailers stocking SuperMAX guns. SuperMAX guns are only compatible with the silver M165 cylinder. The sector gear is larger to alter the gear ratio to efficiently pull back the M165. You need to machine open the sector gear notch on any other cylinders you want to use in that gun, or replace the M165 spring with an M110, M130, etc.

This has been known for awhile, but some retailers apparently aren't aware.

Also, since I looked and it hasn't been brought up in this thread, don't use silica BBs in the PTW. The nozzle and hop-up will chop a styrene BB if there is a misfeed, or it will push the BB through if the feed isn't precise. Silica BBs do not feed well in the double-stacked mags of the PTW, and this is the prime source of misfeeding. The silica BB will not chop and the resulting impact of the piston will destroy your nozzle and hop-up chamber. Minimum repair cost would be about $150 in parts, unless anyone has spares (most people don't). This has been known for awhile as well. Anyone who tells you different should be dealt with cautiously.

kengel · November 11th, 2010, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by morati

My apologies if this doesn't belong here but......Is there a Systema Dealer in Canada?

doubletaptactical.ca carries nothing but Systema PTW's

Jihad Joe · November 11th, 2010, 02:23

DOUBLE TAP IS THE PLACE TO GET THEM!!! THEY ARE WICKED IN THEIR SERVICE AND KNOWLEDGE....

cheers

kullwarrior · November 11th, 2010, 04:02

hmm... Still kinda pricy though. With duties applied Super Max cost around $1700CDN, selling at $2080 is a little high imho. But whatever floats your boat I guess.

mcguyver · November 11th, 2010, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

hmm... Still kinda pricy though. With duties applied Super Max cost around $1700CDN, selling at $2080 is a little high imho. But whatever floats your boat I guess.

I see $200 ICS guns still selling for $400+++ at every retailer in Canada.

You're point is..............................?

I brought up my post above about the SuperMAX as I noticed a retailer listing it with MAX cylinders. Initially, I lol'd, however it became quickly apparent that the guy who forked out the big money believing the retailer, well, he is going to be the loser, and an expensive lesson it could be indeed.

There are very few guys in Canada who really know the PTW. I still get repair/mod requests for them, and I announced over a year ago that I wasn't doing it anymore.

I wouldn't trust a dealer who doesn't know their product, especially regarding a PTW.

kullwarrior · November 11th, 2010, 15:13

Didn't notice Mach1 was selling at $2200, so I guess I can't compain that much onto the doubletactical.

Even if the price is that, one still needs to mod the motor if you don't want problem. Hopup mod is also recommended to increase range and accuracy. (heard somepeople got 6" group @ 30 yards with tackleberry mod) Just saying might be a better idea to get Tackleberry premodded ptw.

Jihad Joe · November 12th, 2010, 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

Didn't notice Mach1 was selling at $2200, so I guess I can't compain that much onto the doubletactical.

Even if the price is that, one still needs to mod the motor if you don't want problem. Hopup mod is also recommended to increase range and accuracy. (heard somepeople got 6" group @ 30 yards with tackleberry mod) Just saying might be a better idea to get Tackleberry premodded ptw.

Last year here on asc ptws were selling for 2500-2800$ used!!!

RIP OFF!!!

good on double tap dropping the price by 1000$$$

At least now we see the used ones going for 1200$- 2000$ depending on the use it has seen and the package being offered...

KEEP IT UP BOYS

CHEERS

morati · November 19th, 2010, 22:31

Are Canadian versions of the SuperMax different from what is offered in Europe and Asia? Reason I ask is that Euro SuperMax versions are said to produce 550-600fps while the local ones are up to 100fps slower.

Drunk_Albertan · November 19th, 2010, 22:52

To my knowledge, all super max PTW's are pushing 550-600+ fps. Pretty hot for just about any field. No difference to region.
Thanks mcguyver for pointing that out about the supermax cylinder compatability.
As for the price, I think they're reasonable for a brand new in box uber sexy ptw. I believe on the new models they have rectified the motor issue, but I'm no expert.

mcguyver · November 20th, 2010, 19:49

The motor issue is still there. Systema has tried to solder the pole/comm connection, but the windings are still the issue. About 10-20% of the motors will fail quickly, and are not repairable at all. The only solution is to buy a new motor from Tackleberry or buy his custom-wound armature and replace it yourself (if you are so inclined and skilled).

scanz · December 5th, 2010, 14:21

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Drunk_Albertan · January 3rd, 2011, 03:15

Cylinder question here,

All the springs are inter-changeable am I correct in this?

Ie: Downgrading a red M150 cylinder with a 130 spring which is TM or something?

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November 10th, 2010, 01:33	#139
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	I'm going to add a small update, seeing as I noticed retailers stocking SuperMAX guns. SuperMAX guns are only compatible with the silver M165 cylinder. The sector gear is larger to alter the gear ratio to efficiently pull back the M165. You need to machine open the sector gear notch on any other cylinders you want to use in that gun, or replace the M165 spring with an M110, M130, etc. This has been known for awhile, but some retailers apparently aren't aware. Also, since I looked and it hasn't been brought up in this thread, don't use silica BBs in the PTW. The nozzle and hop-up will chop a styrene BB if there is a misfeed, or it will push the BB through if the feed isn't precise. Silica BBs do not feed well in the double-stacked mags of the PTW, and this is the prime source of misfeeding. The silica BB will not chop and the resulting impact of the piston will destroy your nozzle and hop-up chamber. Minimum repair cost would be about $150 in parts, unless anyone has spares (most people don't). This has been known for awhile as well. Anyone who tells you different should be dealt with cautiously. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy. Last edited by mcguyver; November 10th, 2010 at 01:45..

November 11th, 2010, 02:23	#141
Jihad Joe Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	DOUBLE TAP IS THE PLACE TO GET THEM!!! THEY ARE WICKED IN THEIR SERVICE AND KNOWLEDGE.... cheers __________________ If It Does Not Kill You...Well....You Know The Rest....www.coalitionairsoft.com

November 11th, 2010, 04:02	#142
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	hmm... Still kinda pricy though. With duties applied Super Max cost around $1700CDN, selling at $2080 is a little high imho. But whatever floats your boat I guess. __________________

October 5th, 2010, 15:56	#136
morati Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mississauga, Ontario	My apologies if this doesn't belong here but......Is there a Systema Dealer in Canada?

October 5th, 2010, 18:04	#137
kolumbo69 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009	Imperial Airsoft from calgary alberta is Now a canadian retailer and has ptw's in stock. Imperialairsoft.com

November 11th, 2010, 15:13	#144
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	Didn't notice Mach1 was selling at $2200, so I guess I can't compain that much onto the doubletactical. Even if the price is that, one still needs to mod the motor if you don't want problem. Hopup mod is also recommended to increase range and accuracy. (heard somepeople got 6" group @ 30 yards with tackleberry mod) Just saying might be a better idea to get Tackleberry premodded ptw. __________________

November 19th, 2010, 22:31	#146
morati Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mississauga, Ontario	Are Canadian versions of the SuperMax different from what is offered in Europe and Asia? Reason I ask is that Euro SuperMax versions are said to produce 550-600fps while the local ones are up to 100fps slower.

November 19th, 2010, 22:52	#147
Drunk_Albertan Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary, Ab	To my knowledge, all super max PTW's are pushing 550-600+ fps. Pretty hot for just about any field. No difference to region. Thanks mcguyver for pointing that out about the supermax cylinder compatability. As for the price, I think they're reasonable for a brand new in box uber sexy ptw. I believe on the new models they have rectified the motor issue, but I'm no expert. __________________ Age Verifier for Calgary, PM me.

November 20th, 2010, 19:49	#148
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	The motor issue is still there. Systema has tried to solder the pole/comm connection, but the windings are still the issue. About 10-20% of the motors will fail quickly, and are not repairable at all. The only solution is to buy a new motor from Tackleberry or buy his custom-wound armature and replace it yourself (if you are so inclined and skilled). __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

December 5th, 2010, 14:21	#149
scanz Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2010	l

January 3rd, 2011, 03:15	#150
Drunk_Albertan Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary, Ab	Cylinder question here, All the springs are inter-changeable am I correct in this? Ie: Downgrading a red M150 cylinder with a 130 spring which is TM or something? __________________ Age Verifier for Calgary, PM me.

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