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Old September 15th, 2007, 21:17   #1
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GBB mag discharging

Hey I just picked up HFC's T77, and I wasted all day giving a tree a new hole to breathe out of, still havent discharged all the mag's gas. Still running strong, and GBBs are not my area of expertise... Will leaving gas in the mag for long periods of time damage the mag? If I must discharge the gas, and dont want to spend forever loading, firing and reloading, how might I go about releasing said gas? fyi it uses green gas, (propane), and yeah, its a pretty awesome backup. Great gun for the price, ROF is insane, even on full auto still relatively accurate. Maybe 1 foot groups at 20 feet, (pretty good, I'd say, for something with like a 4 inch barrel) Ive got a bunch of other mags for it, so, doesnt matter that much if this one I've filled is damaged, but I'd like to know how to do this. I know theres the little gas valve on the top of the mag, but dont want to go into something not knowing what Im doing. halp pleaz
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Old September 15th, 2007, 22:26   #2
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It is actually recommended to store your mags with gas (not full, just some). As it keeps everything filled up and nice and tight. If you must discharge you should aim the mag away from you and press the buttonish thing on the bag of the mag. Doing this is not recommened.

Using the sites seach option yielded this information.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...aving+gas+mags
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Old September 15th, 2007, 22:29   #3
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It is actually recommended to store your mags with gas. As it keeps everything filled up and nice and tight. If you must discharge you should aim the mag away from you and press the buttonish thing on the bag of the mag. Doing this is not recommened.
It's not recommended, cause it freezes your seals, thus resulting in FUBAR'd seals.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 22:33   #4
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Thank you Kos for elaborating on the discharging effects.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 22:36   #5
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Old September 15th, 2007, 22:38   #6
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Well instead of loading and loading, why not just dryfire? It ain't an AEG, so I don't think it would be a problem.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 22:54   #7
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Well instead of loading and loading, why not just dryfire? It ain't an AEG, so I don't think it would be a problem.
It CAN be.. but I don't think this applies for any GBB 1911..
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Old September 16th, 2007, 04:41   #8
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I assume dry firing would be just the same as firing with BB's in a GBB, especially the open bolt guns like the T77 and the Mac11. Also I know that my Mac11 does not fire if it doesn't have any BB's in it. Lock the magazine spring down at the bottom of the mag, and dry firing will work, if you prefer that method.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 05:41   #9
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It CAN be.. but I don't think this applies for any GBB 1911..
The tm 5.1 & 4.3 hi-capa have a tender spot that suffers due to dry fire.

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Old September 16th, 2007, 06:54   #10
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If you must release the gas, release it through the same port it went in (like babies :P ). Use a small pin, or stick, or similar object (I've often used a dummy 5.56x45 when I'm testing guns at home, cuz I have one right next to my work area) Just avoid exposing your skin directly to the gas being vented (cold).

Also, for CO2 guns, don't leave gas in it for a prolonged period of time (even overnight); CO2 will freeze/harden your seals which will then leak and be empty when you want to use it.
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The tm 5.1 & 4.3 hi-capa have a tender spot that suffers due to dry fire.
Ooops. What I meant to saw was.. WA 1911 ^_^
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Old September 16th, 2007, 20:29   #12
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Always keep gas in the mag. Period.
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Old September 18th, 2007, 01:23   #13
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I was always told it was better to release gas than keep it in....messes with your internals.....*sniggers like a child*
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Old September 18th, 2007, 09:52   #14
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How are you at fixing sealing problems? Leaky mags mostly occur because they were stored with no gas in them. I've learned the hard way. Don't need to keep them filled up full, but having some gas is always better than completely empty. Best example I can give, one of my KJW M700 mags was left completely empty for three days (was when I got around to the store to buy more propane), I filled it when I got home and gas sprayed out of it badly. I had to use gasket maker on the seals, left it for 24 hours, hasn't leaked at all. Same with two of my G19 mags, I unknowingly had them empty (I have 6 total, so it's easy to lose track of) I had to use the gasket maker on them last year and they haven't leaked since I did that, largely because I always keep gas in them.

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Old September 18th, 2007, 17:42   #15
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How are you at fixing sealing problems? Leaky mags mostly occur because they were stored with no gas in them. I've learned the hard way. Don't need to keep them filled up full, but having some gas is always better than completely empty. Best example I can give, one of my KJW M700 mags was left completely empty for three days (was when I got around to the store to buy more propane), I filled it when I got home and gas sprayed out of it badly. I had to use gasket maker on the seals, left it for 24 hours, hasn't leaked at all. Same with two of my G19 mags, I unknowingly had them empty (I have 6 total, so it's easy to lose track of) I had to use the gasket maker on them last year and they haven't leaked since I did that, largely because I always keep gas in them.
Gasket maker? Care to elaborate on the process? I have a Tokarev that was DOA that i'd like to try this on.
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