yet another grenade Idea.

[Manaconda]

Ok I have an idea for a grenade that doesn't use pyro and is very safe even if it lands on you. The whole Idea is based off of the same principles of a Hi cap mag. What you do is wind the top and insert the pin to lock it. Flip open the top of the grenade to fill with BB's. It works in two halves that you have to twist to lock closed. So you pull the pin unlocking the spring and throw the grenade. Upon impact the two halves spring twist open releasing a shower of BB's. Now I know it isn't very powerful but it is completely reusable and safe. I was just looking for feed back. I can post some drawings soon to give you a better idea of what I've come up with.

Tear it apart guys. the only way I can make it better is with your sudgestions.

[czerone]

sounds to me like bbs will just pour onto the ground, rather then burst in all directions.

[FOX_111]

They won't go far enought and this systeme is prone to breaking IMO.

[Boche]

Post a drawing, when you get a chance, and perhaps it will spawn some improvements or alternatives to your design. Don't be discouraged.

[Slick]

the hi cap mags dont really send bbs flying out. I think springs like in the low caps would send bbs flying further. But even that would be pathetic. Id say if it wasnt gas or pyro then it would never work good enough to bother using.

Id like to see someone start using pyro granades on the field. Big fire cracker wrapped in dry peas or cork. The chances of getting hurt are really slim. Id think people would be more likely to injure themselfs tripping on a rock or stepping in a hole.

[Mysteryfish]

^^^ hahaha...


*and also*

- Thought of a similar idea. It'd be spring loaded, not wound, and the BB's would be in front of high tension springs, with good, rubber topped followers.

- Situate a bunch of tubes all the way around a circular core (shaped like a grenade), put an inverted cone type "distributing plate" on top, and use a ticker (like an old style oven timer) to spin the mechanism from "locked" to "Followers go WHAP, BB's go flying"

Reusable, could be fairly well sealed...

Lots peeps gonna say the same things though, along the lines of:

- Teh GAY! I are teh leet better, and IMO things don't work if I've never seen them!
- It's gonna be TOO HEAVY, and it's going to hit you in the face and you'll die
- Do it, prove it works, THEN show us.

I'm a big fan of the 3rd one, but my input is similar to the above:
- A winder won't send BB's very far. It's got to be abrupt and quite a bit more powerful (like gas or explosive). I think it COULD be done with springs, but capacity and distribution of BB's might not be that great...

Then again, for a non-pyrotechnic solution, anything beats what's available right now... (aka, nothing really)

[GMTII]

You can always take a handfull of bb's or pop corn cornals and just throw them at the ememy (or anything that is around the same size as a 6mm bb that wont hurt when hit by it) thats the best and mose effective grenade. I'v seen it done once before.

[BloodSport]

You know the ones that Illusion is selling work quite well, are rather solid and built well. Work on Propane, and fill with MadMax's adaptor quite nicely. Have an adjustable timer for detonation. And make a nice poping sound when they go off, and the BB's do spread around quite a bit. Oh and did I mention they are reusable over and over again. They hold either 28 6mm BB's or 9 8mm BB's.

I bought 2 of them, and have absolutely no complaints, and several of the local guys have even filmed one going off, once I can get a copy of the video from them I will post a link for them.

[Captain Tenneal]

How hard do they fire/How far? Plus, how good is the spread (as in feetwise)? And you mean those escort ones right?

[BloodSport]

Originally Posted by MuffinMan

How hard do they fire/How far? Plus, how good is the spread (as in feetwise)? And you mean those escort ones right?

Yup the escort ones, spread wise we set them off in a room thats about 10' x 15' and I could hear the BB's bouncing off the walls. As to how hard, no worse then a M203 grenade, in fact I'd say less. You definately know when your hit, but Unless it literaly lands on you then pops I cannot see it leaving any marks.

Definately worth the money in my eyes, and once I can spare the cash, I'm probably going to grab 4 more. Not only are they functional, reusable, compatable with propane and our current adaptors, they look f'ing awesome as a part of my rig.

[Manaconda]

Ok. I had an idea for a grenade that would be useful on any field. Remember there are restrictions in place on many fields if it has too do with Pyro. Secondly I didn't ask who else was making grenades or what they did or who's was better or anything other then what you think with maybe some constructive critisism. I have seen lots of grenade posts on this site and it always turns into the same thing. You guys bitching about who's got the bigger dick.

I'm seriously trying to build something we can use on any field so unless you have some real input please post some where else.

thank you and have a good day.

[Mysteryfish]

Shuridys... think before you type. You're being obnoxious.


As for those Escort Grenades, I'm surprised they get a decent range...

I've been meaning to ask someone who's used them:

What triggers them?
- Is it impact with the ground?
- Or is there a way to time them so they can be rolled or thrown before "exploding" ?

[Manaconda]

I'll post my drawings for this project in a bit. I just have to redo them in Illustrator. You know clean em up. The blast radius on a regular frag grenade isn't that big and since all we are trying to do is dislodge some one from a position I would think that effective range for the BB's would only need to be bout 6 feet or so. MInd you they realy won't hurt at all kinda for effect. Thanx for the feed back so far.

[BloodSport]

Originally Posted by Mysteryfish

Shuridys... think before you type. You're being obnoxious.


As for those Escort Grenades, I'm surprised they get a decent range...

I've been meaning to ask someone who's used them:

What triggers them?
- Is it impact with the ground?
- Or is there a way to time them so they can be rolled or thrown before "exploding" ?

Impact/timer. The pin/spoon mechanism on the top is where you can adjust the timer setting on it, and then when it impacts depending on the setting you have it will either roll around the corner (depending on how you throw it) before it explodes. I showed a few of the guys at a local sim we ran a few weeks ago, and I was throwing them around the corner into a room where they would bounce before going off. Scared the crap out of the one guy as he was only expecting the one grenade and not another one a few seconds later to come rolling in 8)

As soon as I can get the video from the guys like I said I will post a link, and do a quick review with photos and such on their operation.

[Greykin]

Originally Posted by wiseowl

You know the ones that Illusion is selling work quite well, are rather solid and built well. Work on Propane, and fill with MadMax's adaptor quite nicely. Have an adjustable timer for detonation. And make a nice poping sound when they go off, and the BB's do spread around quite a bit. Oh and did I mention they are reusable over and over again. They hold either 28 6mm BB's or 9 8mm BB's.

I bought 2 of them, and have absolutely no complaints, and several of the local guys have even filmed one going off, once I can get a copy of the video from them I will post a link for them.

Granada Escort
Video =)