CBC: The Trouble with Fake Guns

Brian McIlmoyle · February 21st, 2009, 23:16

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Originally Posted by Comanche

Wow. Brian, I think that you did what's right! .

Well everyone won't share that position... and they are entitled to their opinion.. and to state it... Just as I am.

theshaneler · February 21st, 2009, 23:16

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle;

they should place imitation firearms under the non restricted PAL.

i have always wondered if airsoft would improve if placed under the PAL/R-PAL
there have been threads on it here, but no real discussion, it usually ends up being 2 people yelling back and forth and no one will budge.

i'm looking forward to the piece, and have the PVR set already

Moderate · February 21st, 2009, 23:20

Does anyone have a link to that report CBC did on airsoft guns a few years back? I think it had footage mostly from out west.

Brian McIlmoyle · February 21st, 2009, 23:48

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Originally Posted by moderatesniper

Does anyone have a link to that report CBC did on airsoft guns a few years back? I think it had footage mostly from out west.

They did most of their footage for this one out west as well .. as I think that is where the reporter lives

sushicake · February 22nd, 2009, 00:07

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Originally Posted by moderatesniper

Does anyone have a link to that report CBC did on airsoft guns a few years back? I think it had footage mostly from out west.

IIRC it's Erica Johnson or something she lives out in Vancouver.

johjoh · February 22nd, 2009, 00:09

Does anyone know at what hour and when the report finishes i want to record it as i will be having my hockey playoffs game friday night

mcguyver · February 22nd, 2009, 00:10

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants

I'm sure it would shave a few seconds off of the mule's time.

The other ass!!

chester · February 22nd, 2009, 00:10

For my own view, I keep making the link from airsoft to hockey, a full-on Canadian sport that is loved my families across the country. Hockey has inherent violence (and in most cases much more genuine than in airsoft), heavy duty gear, fast moving projectiles, and large, potentially dangerous weapons (sticks).

In a crime-based situation you could do some serious damage with hockey sticks. I'm actually thinking about that lady in the video/preview that was so scared when the bad guys came in with what I'm assuming must have been replica firearms. She probably would have been just as scared if a couple of guys came in swinging hockey sticks.

As a potentially dangerous weapon, should we ban hockey sticks? Wouldn't they be safer to society if they were made of foam instead of hardwood? Canadians would revolt. It might be the only time people in this country actually got truly angry.

There are so many examples of easy-to-acquire weapons: the machetes Tom mentioned above, or axes/chainsaws at Cdn Tire, etc etc. But it always comes down to the same thing - it's not the weapon, it's the crime. Don't commit crimes with any weapons - full stop. I can understand the frustration of the police as they're trying to put the bad guys away and they keep getting away with crime. So it seems like an easy target to go after the law-abiding 'good' owners of guns - but it's misdirected.

It's good to hear that the CBC crew thought it looked like fun and wanted to come back. They did seem like they were trying to do a 'fair and balanced' story, and I'm really hoping that wasn't just an act to soften us up!

sushicake · February 22nd, 2009, 00:12

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Originally Posted by johjoh

Does anyone know at what hour and when the report finishes i want to record it as i will be having my hockey playoffs game friday night

8:30pm

johjoh · February 22nd, 2009, 00:24

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Originally Posted by chester

For my own view, I keep making the link from airsoft to hockey, a full-on Canadian sport that is loved my families across the country. Hockey has inherent violence (and in most cases much more genuine than in airsoft), heavy duty gear, fast moving projectiles, and large, potentially dangerous weapons (sticks).

In a crime-based situation you could do some serious damage with hockey sticks. I'm actually thinking about that lady in the video/preview that was so scared when the bad guys came in with what I'm assuming must have been replica firearms. She probably would have been just as scared if a couple of guys came in swinging hockey sticks.

As a potentially dangerous weapon, should we ban hockey sticks? Wouldn't they be safer to society if they were made of foam instead of hardwood? Canadians would revolt. It might be the only time people in this country actually got truly angry.

There are so many examples of easy-to-acquire weapons: the machetes Tom mentioned above, or axes/chainsaws at Cdn Tire, etc etc. But it always comes down to the same thing - it's not the weapon, it's the crime. Don't commit crimes with any weapons - full stop. I can understand the frustration of the police as they're trying to put the bad guys away and they keep getting away with crime. So it seems like an easy target to go after the law-abiding 'good' owners of guns - but it's misdirected.

It's good to hear that the CBC crew thought it looked like fun and wanted to come back. They did seem like they were trying to do a 'fair and balanced' story, and I'm really hoping that wasn't just an act to soften us up!

hockey sticks situation is true, but look at it this way, ive never seen a crime been done by a hockey stick, and there not made out of hardwood only those crappy tire ones are, there composites very strong ones,
plus composite sticks flex alot if u ever watched disc channel (sport science if i recall the show was) they showed a baseball bat would hurt a heck of alot more, and a stick less because it flexes and bouces back off, anyways dint mean to go off topic

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Originally Posted by sushicake

8:30pm

thanks

cbcsteve · February 22nd, 2009, 01:24

Thank goodness for Brian posting in and Chester for the hockey stick analogy (And a bit humorous too) Thanks to you guys now the ASC curve of feelings should be positively going up

About the video, if they are reading the forums I just would like to say thanks for the video editing, I thought it would look weird if I shot into nothing but with that camera angle it looked very nice. That closeup of my pistol made it looks so menacing which I don't know if thats good or bad for the public eyes.

And also nice video quality I could actually see the bleeder scar on my index finger.

Janus · February 22nd, 2009, 02:40

HOLY SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING

Screw this shit, I'mma go play me some airsoft.

Cortexburn · February 22nd, 2009, 04:11

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Originally Posted by cbcsteve

That closeup of my pistol made it looks so menacing which I don't know if thats good or bad for the public eyes.

Yes, yes you do.

It's not about reality, it's about perception.

LUTNIT · February 22nd, 2009, 04:40

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Originally Posted by cbcsteve

Wait a second, the hockey stick analogy made time go backwards?

burningashes · February 22nd, 2009, 04:50

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Originally Posted by LUTNIT

Wait a second, the hockey stick analogy made time go backwards?

LOLZ

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February 22nd, 2009, 00:10	#53
chester Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto	For my own view, I keep making the link from airsoft to hockey, a full-on Canadian sport that is loved my families across the country. Hockey has inherent violence (and in most cases much more genuine than in airsoft), heavy duty gear, fast moving projectiles, and large, potentially dangerous weapons (sticks). In a crime-based situation you could do some serious damage with hockey sticks. I'm actually thinking about that lady in the video/preview that was so scared when the bad guys came in with what I'm assuming must have been replica firearms. She probably would have been just as scared if a couple of guys came in swinging hockey sticks. As a potentially dangerous weapon, should we ban hockey sticks? Wouldn't they be safer to society if they were made of foam instead of hardwood? Canadians would revolt. It might be the only time people in this country actually got truly angry. There are so many examples of easy-to-acquire weapons: the machetes Tom mentioned above, or axes/chainsaws at Cdn Tire, etc etc. But it always comes down to the same thing - it's not the weapon, it's the crime. Don't commit crimes with any weapons - full stop. I can understand the frustration of the police as they're trying to put the bad guys away and they keep getting away with crime. So it seems like an easy target to go after the law-abiding 'good' owners of guns - but it's misdirected. It's good to hear that the CBC crew thought it looked like fun and wanted to come back. They did seem like they were trying to do a 'fair and balanced' story, and I'm really hoping that wasn't just an act to soften us up! __________________ Last edited by chester; February 22nd, 2009 at 00:16.. Reason: Changed Toronto Police to just police - it applies to all areas!

February 22nd, 2009, 01:24	#56
cbcsteve Nice Guy Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto	Thank goodness for Brian posting in and Chester for the hockey stick analogy (And a bit humorous too) Thanks to you guys now the ASC curve of feelings should be positively going up About the video, if they are reading the forums I just would like to say thanks for the video editing, I thought it would look weird if I shot into nothing but with that camera angle it looked very nice. That closeup of my pistol made it looks so menacing which I don't know if thats good or bad for the public eyes. And also nice video quality I could actually see the bleeder scar on my index finger. __________________ 蕭- Pistolero Steve - 蕭 Last edited by cbcsteve; February 22nd, 2009 at 01:31..

February 22nd, 2009, 02:40	#57
Janus Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	HOLY SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING Screw this shit, I'mma go play me some airsoft. __________________ Age Verifier - Lower Vancouver Island Brotherhood of Nod - Nod Prime \|\| Vancouver Island Airsoft League - President Unavailable for AV until April 2020.

February 21st, 2009, 23:20	#48
Moderate Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Under a Bridge	Does anyone have a link to that report CBC did on airsoft guns a few years back? I think it had footage mostly from out west.

February 22nd, 2009, 00:09	#51
johjoh Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ottawa	Does anyone know at what hour and when the report finishes i want to record it as i will be having my hockey playoffs game friday night

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