Safety

jtjcheng · August 25th, 2009, 16:19

seekah...I understand what you meant...

I know most people here don't have their safety on while in the field. It's a bit strange, isn't it?

I thought in real life combat, we don't put safety off until engaging the enemy to avoid accidents. Maybe I'm a bit old school (1990s)? Has the rule been changed recently in combat?

Blackthorne · August 25th, 2009, 17:36

Gun up on target, safety off, gun down, safety on.

It's muscle memory, you just need to practice it.

HeadlessChicken · August 25th, 2009, 19:53

On Semi, finger away from the trigger in game.
Off game, safety, no mag, clear the barrel.

seekah · August 25th, 2009, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne

Gun up on target, safety off, gun down, safety on.

It's muscle memory, you just need to practice it.

Thats exactly it. It goes you more time to decide if your engaging friendly or foe, it also gives you time to decide if semi is all you need, or if full auto is better suited.

If any of you guys plan on moving to real steal, and plan on doing any tactical courses, I highly suggest you start developing that muscle memory.

Deftonius · August 26th, 2009, 22:53

If you're worried that you won't get the safety off in time to engage a target...

Practice, practice, practice.

Soon enough you'll be so used to it, that you won't even notice there's a safety.

It's good to get in the habit now, you never know when you'll make appearance at a gun range for some plinking.

six4 · August 26th, 2009, 23:06

When I'm in the field and not expecting to be engaging targets,,,,I switch to semi with finger off the trigger. Only because you never know where the enemy is, and i've been in the situation where I've had to react to a missed shot and a quick double tap to keep heads down while I escape/evade has been a godsend.

CDN_Stalker · August 26th, 2009, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtjcheng

seekah...I understand what you meant...

I know most people here don't have their safety on while in the field. It's a bit strange, isn't it?

I thought in real life combat, we don't put safety off until engaging the enemy to avoid accidents. Maybe I'm a bit old school (1990s)? Has the rule been changed recently in combat?

Big thing being sudden ambush from close range and dealing with it, is enough to dive for cover and figure out what is going on, nearest cover and such, and being at the ready out of safe mode with finger off trigger is one less thing to deal with. Also explains, besides ammo usage, why those experienced ones that use Armalites use semi often, the Armalite selector is a pain to move to full auto as it is with a shooting grip, let alone during high stress while under fire.

Amos · August 26th, 2009, 23:13

My VSR doesn't have a safety...

But I've got the trigger pull set to about 6-7 pounds.

CDN_Stalker · August 26th, 2009, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos

My VSR doesn't have a safety...

But I've got the trigger pull set to about 6-7 pounds.

My M24 doesn't either, and has a heavy trigger pull too, but is lighter and smoother than Piper's Remington 700 lightweight .308 hunting (sorry Joe, SNIPER) rifle! I was surprised at this, I thought I had a very heavy trigger pull until I started shooting his rifle, then found out what an annoyingly bad trigger pull is.

McKay · August 27th, 2009, 02:39

Full auto, however my FAMAS has basically two safetys so I can leave the trigger guard one on while the selector switch is set to auto and jam my finger in to turn it off and fire in a second.
My M14 on the other hand also has a trigger guard located safety so I tend to keep it on and have a finger ready to turn it off at a moments notice

Kuro_Neko · August 27th, 2009, 03:17

While actually in game I'm on full auto with my finger outside the guard. When I'm actually engaging the enemy my finger is on the trigger riding the break. On the way to respawn or any other situation where I'm in the game area but not playing it's on safe. In the safe zone safety on, mag out and barrel cleared.

Gerkraz · August 28th, 2009, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne

Gun up on target, safety off, gun down, safety on.

It's muscle memory, you just need to practice it.

This. It also prevents all instances of "I would have had you but my safety was on."

Point_Man · August 29th, 2009, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne

Gun up on target, safety off, gun down, safety on.

It's muscle memory, you just need to practice it.

I second this one. With practice it can be done just as quickly and is a very good safety and weapon skill that is transferable to other airsoft and real steel.

kullwarrior · August 30th, 2009, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Point_Man

I second this one. With practice it can be done just as quickly and is a very good safety and weapon skill that is transferable to other airsoft and real steel.

except my woc is stiff as hell to turn safety, I can do safe to semi, semi to safe basically sight on sight off type now, but auto to safe....gotta get my index finger to move all the way back so my thumb can extend far enough to push it to semi then safe. Oh god, I really cant understand why they made the default M4/M16 on sided selector.

AngelusNex · August 30th, 2009, 09:59

Always have my gun on safe then switch to semi when the SHTF. Though, the few times I've used uncivilized guns (AK) I find proper safety use impossible and it had to stay on semi all the time (a contributing factor to my distaste in them).

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View Poll Results: What is the condition of your gun while not engaging other players
Gun is on Safe	139	46.80%
Gun is on Semi	77	25.93%
Gun is on Auto	40	13.47%
pfft, I dont even put a mag in the well until I need to!	41	13.80%
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August 25th, 2009, 16:19	#16
jtjcheng Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, B.C.	seekah...I understand what you meant... I know most people here don't have their safety on while in the field. It's a bit strange, isn't it? I thought in real life combat, we don't put safety off until engaging the enemy to avoid accidents. Maybe I'm a bit old school (1990s)? Has the rule been changed recently in combat? __________________ Velocity, Distance, Acceleration, Time... A gun has them all...

August 25th, 2009, 17:36	#17
Blackthorne A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Consecon, Ontario	Gun up on target, safety off, gun down, safety on. It's muscle memory, you just need to practice it. __________________ VINCITE OMNIMODO

August 25th, 2009, 19:53	#18
HeadlessChicken Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	On Semi, finger away from the trigger in game. Off game, safety, no mag, clear the barrel. __________________ "Hey I'm the first one to say its a great country but its a straaaaange culture. This is a place where gun store owners are given a list of stolen credit cards but not a list of CRIMINALS and MANIACS. And now they're thinking of banning toy guns...AND THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THE F**KING REAL ONES!" -George Carlin 1937 - 2008 (RIP buddy)

August 26th, 2009, 22:53	#20
Deftonius Troll Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa	If you're worried that you won't get the safety off in time to engage a target... Practice, practice, practice. Soon enough you'll be so used to it, that you won't even notice there's a safety. It's good to get in the habit now, you never know when you'll make appearance at a gun range for some plinking.

August 26th, 2009, 23:06	#21
six4 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: mission b.c.	When I'm in the field and not expecting to be engaging targets,,,,I switch to semi with finger off the trigger. Only because you never know where the enemy is, and i've been in the situation where I've had to react to a missed shot and a quick double tap to keep heads down while I escape/evade has been a godsend.

August 26th, 2009, 23:13	#23
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	My VSR doesn't have a safety... But I've got the trigger pull set to about 6-7 pounds. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

August 27th, 2009, 02:39	#25
McKay Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Winterpeg the frozen hell hole	Full auto, however my FAMAS has basically two safetys so I can leave the trigger guard one on while the selector switch is set to auto and jam my finger in to turn it off and fire in a second. My M14 on the other hand also has a trigger guard located safety so I tend to keep it on and have a finger ready to turn it off at a moments notice __________________ Proud owner of the FA36-74u XBL Gamer Tag: Knightly McKay

August 27th, 2009, 03:17	#26
Kuro_Neko Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland	While actually in game I'm on full auto with my finger outside the guard. When I'm actually engaging the enemy my finger is on the trigger riding the break. On the way to respawn or any other situation where I'm in the game area but not playing it's on safe. In the safe zone safety on, mag out and barrel cleared. __________________

August 30th, 2009, 09:59	#30
AngelusNex formerly Sepulcrum Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kingston,ON, aka Funkasia	Always have my gun on safe then switch to semi when the SHTF. Though, the few times I've used uncivilized guns (AK) I find proper safety use impossible and it had to stay on semi all the time (a contributing factor to my distaste in them).

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