Gas?

jrkiler · January 18th, 2008, 01:58

i live in BC N Van and im wondering if there are any places left that i can buy green gas or HCRC- 134a (sorry if thats rong). i know most airsoft retails are closed here, but r there any paintball shops or even hunting stores that sell them? thnx in advanced

PS srry if this is wrong section, im still new to this site

ak_STALKER · January 18th, 2008, 02:15

what kind of gun do you have. most of us use propane instead of green gas since its the same thing.

Drake · January 18th, 2008, 02:28

Like ak_Stalker said, you can get an adapter and use propane (like the Coleman camping canisters) as green gas since it's the same gas except different smell added, and you have to add the lube yourself. You can pick up an adapter from airsoftparts.ca or directly from airsoft-innovations.com

HFC-134a is getting harder to find, since most dusters have switched to HFC-152a (Difluoroethane), which doesn't offer as much pressure. You can still find some dusters that use HFC-134a, though.

For duster you'll have more luck in hardware stores, computer stores or camera shops, or even WalMart and Zellers, than hunting/pball stores. Propane you can get at Canadian Tire and is frequently on sale.

jrkiler · January 18th, 2008, 02:38

awsome! the gun i have is the TM IMI deagle .50 ae hard kick ( beautiful gun XD) and i just used the last canister of green gas i bought with it. it was gonna take 2 weeks just for the gas to come here from japan so i was looking for any good/ close places to buy them. oh btw, are there any direct shops in or near vancouver to buy the adaptor, and can i just use key lubericant ( for trumpet keys)?

Jugglez · January 18th, 2008, 02:49

http://active-tech.ca/

They have a store in Vancouver and should have the "good" duster.

Look for this http://mgchemicals.com/products/402a.html

ak_STALKER · January 18th, 2008, 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrkiler

awsome! the gun i have is the TM IMI deagle .50 ae hard kick ( beautiful gun XD) and i just used the last canister of green gas i bought with it. it was gonna take 2 weeks just for the gas to come here from japan so i was looking for any good/ close places to buy them. oh btw, are there any direct shops in or near vancouver to buy the adaptor, and can i just use key lubericant ( for trumpet keys)?

if propane will work with your gun (you will have to ask about it.) then you can order an adaptor and silicone oil from aasurplus.ca

then just go to canadian tire, walmart, etc and buy some propane.

jrkiler · January 18th, 2008, 02:55

thnx guys, this was alot of help!

Sha Do · January 18th, 2008, 02:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrkiler

awsome! the gun i have is the TM IMI deagle .50 ae hard kick ( beautiful gun XD) and i just used the last canister of green gas i bought with it. it was gonna take 2 weeks just for the gas to come here from japan so i was looking for any good/ close places to buy them. oh btw, are there any direct shops in or near vancouver to buy the adaptor, and can i just use key lubericant ( for trumpet keys)?

Don't hold your breath on the gas coming in from Japan bro...
Heres why;
Years ago more and more shipments of green gas started getting sent back to Japan, leaving the gas consuming community at a loss, and no one could figure out why.
The reason is simple...green gas cans do not have a preasure release valve and therefore cannot be shipped via air, and if the seaport/boarder officals find these canisters they are either sent back or destroyed because they do not have the proper warning lables attached to them as required by Canadian Consumer laws.
Now I'm not saying that it won't slip between the cracks, but don't start thinking that you can rely on ordering more in from over seas.

MadMax did his homework and saved all you gas gun owners a whole lot of head aches is by proving that propane and green gas were one in the same.
All hail Airsoft Innovations!!

SHA DO

leblanc74 · January 18th, 2008, 15:07

Go to Dave's Army Surplu in New West... they have both types, also mentionned that you where refered from this site by me and you might have a discount, depending who is at the tilt....

Crunchmeister · January 18th, 2008, 16:46

If you insist on using HFC-134A, get the duster gas at The Source. It's the only duster gas that I know of you can buy in a general retail location that's 134a. There's also MG Chemicals Super Duster 134 that you can buy much cheaper online. Google MG Chemicals. They have a list of Canadian suppliers on their Web site, and have a lot of them. You may have one near you that you can buy it from. It's significantly cheaper. For the price of 2 cans of the Nexxtech stuff from The Source, I got 5 cans of MG Chemicals from a place in Ottawa. That included the price of shipping.

Or as others have said, buy an AI or Madbull propane adapter and some lightweight silicone oil. For less than $5 you can get a propane cylinder that will last longer than a $20+ cannister of green gas. All green gas is is propane with lubricant.

Drake · January 19th, 2008, 02:58

Just a heads up, if you usually get your 134a from The Source, you might want to stock up; the last time I was there (just before Xmas, doing last minute shopping) I happened across the Nexxtech duster, and they'd switched to 152a.

Crunchmeister · January 19th, 2008, 11:58

So they've switched too? Oh well. There's always MG Chemicals. Besides, I don't use duster ofte. Only have one gun that uses it and I rarely shoot it as it's really just a collection piece. Still have 4 cans of MG 134a. That should last a while.

diamond_SEA · January 19th, 2008, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrkiler

can i just use key lubericant ( for trumpet keys)?

Its been a while since i last picked up a trumpet, but as far as i remember, no, the valve oil is not the same thickness. Much to dilute. Find and R/C shop and find R/C shock oil. works like a charm.

kalnaren · January 19th, 2008, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by diamond_SEA

Its been a while since i last picked up a trumpet, but as far as i remember, no, the valve oil is not the same thickness. Much to dilute. Find and R/C shop and find R/C shock oil. works like a charm.

+1. The oil used on the trumpet is different, much thinner, than lightweight silicone oil.

Drake · January 21st, 2008, 10:09

Or if you can't find it (or don't wanna bother) you can get the Airsoft Innovations one from Airsoft Parts for $5 (cheaper than on the AI site)

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...roducts_id=623

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January 18th, 2008, 01:58	#1
jrkiler Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007	Gas? i live in BC N Van and im wondering if there are any places left that i can buy green gas or HCRC- 134a (sorry if thats rong). i know most airsoft retails are closed here, but r there any paintball shops or even hunting stores that sell them? thnx in advanced PS srry if this is wrong section, im still new to this site Last edited by jrkiler; January 18th, 2008 at 02:06..

January 18th, 2008, 02:28	#3
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	Like ak_Stalker said, you can get an adapter and use propane (like the Coleman camping canisters) as green gas since it's the same gas except different smell added, and you have to add the lube yourself. You can pick up an adapter from airsoftparts.ca or directly from airsoft-innovations.com HFC-134a is getting harder to find, since most dusters have switched to HFC-152a (Difluoroethane), which doesn't offer as much pressure. You can still find some dusters that use HFC-134a, though. For duster you'll have more luck in hardware stores, computer stores or camera shops, or even WalMart and Zellers, than hunting/pball stores. Propane you can get at Canadian Tire and is frequently on sale. __________________

January 18th, 2008, 02:38	#4
jrkiler Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007	awsome! the gun i have is the TM IMI deagle .50 ae hard kick ( beautiful gun XD) and i just used the last canister of green gas i bought with it. it was gonna take 2 weeks just for the gas to come here from japan so i was looking for any good/ close places to buy them. oh btw, are there any direct shops in or near vancouver to buy the adaptor, and can i just use key lubericant ( for trumpet keys)? Last edited by jrkiler; January 18th, 2008 at 02:43..

January 18th, 2008, 02:15	#2
ak_STALKER Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007	what kind of gun do you have. most of us use propane instead of green gas since its the same thing.

January 18th, 2008, 02:49	#5
Jugglez Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Swimming in a pool of Xpresspost receipts.... Toronto - 400/401	http://active-tech.ca/ They have a store in Vancouver and should have the "good" duster. Look for this http://mgchemicals.com/products/402a.html __________________

January 18th, 2008, 02:55	#7
jrkiler Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007	thnx guys, this was alot of help!

January 18th, 2008, 15:07	#9
leblanc74 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Coquitlam	Go to Dave's Army Surplu in New West... they have both types, also mentionned that you where refered from this site by me and you might have a discount, depending who is at the tilt.... __________________ My Collection: Seller/Buyer Feedback

January 18th, 2008, 16:46	#10
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	If you insist on using HFC-134A, get the duster gas at The Source. It's the only duster gas that I know of you can buy in a general retail location that's 134a. There's also MG Chemicals Super Duster 134 that you can buy much cheaper online. Google MG Chemicals. They have a list of Canadian suppliers on their Web site, and have a lot of them. You may have one near you that you can buy it from. It's significantly cheaper. For the price of 2 cans of the Nexxtech stuff from The Source, I got 5 cans of MG Chemicals from a place in Ottawa. That included the price of shipping. Or as others have said, buy an AI or Madbull propane adapter and some lightweight silicone oil. For less than $5 you can get a propane cylinder that will last longer than a $20+ cannister of green gas. All green gas is is propane with lubricant. __________________ Last edited by Crunchmeister; January 18th, 2008 at 16:48..

January 19th, 2008, 02:58	#11
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	Just a heads up, if you usually get your 134a from The Source, you might want to stock up; the last time I was there (just before Xmas, doing last minute shopping) I happened across the Nexxtech duster, and they'd switched to 152a. __________________

January 19th, 2008, 11:58	#12
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	So they've switched too? Oh well. There's always MG Chemicals. Besides, I don't use duster ofte. Only have one gun that uses it and I rarely shoot it as it's really just a collection piece. Still have 4 cans of MG 134a. That should last a while. __________________

January 21st, 2008, 10:09	#15
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	Or if you can't find it (or don't wanna bother) you can get the Airsoft Innovations one from Airsoft Parts for $5 (cheaper than on the AI site) http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...roducts_id=623 __________________

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