Bolle T800 Question

Chingyul · April 18th, 2006, 00:29

Few quick questions about the Bolle's.

Exactly how much space is between the lens and the frame? Would these be considered sealed in the airsoft sense (unlike shooting glasses), where a bb would be able to fit through the gaps.?

Last thing. Is there any difference between the T-800 that is usually mentioned, versus the X800T that seems to get mentioned when related to airsoft (usually asian sites).

T-800
X800T

They sure do look the same, but wondering why the X800T is tied more to asian airsoft/paintball and the T-800 to field/real operator use.

Oh. Comfort of these versus ESS Profile NVGs. I've been debating over these 2.
I think someone said they had troubles with the ESS with an asian/chinese nose.

DuffMan · April 18th, 2006, 00:34

I'd assume that the X800 is a knock-off?

As for the gaps, there have been a couple cases (I recall one at TTAC) where a BB got in and rolled its way around the inside of the frame. No harm done.

MadMax · April 18th, 2006, 00:51

I'm not sure I'd trust the Asian remake of the T-800. Polycarbonate comes in many grades with properties such as UV or solvent resistance or sensitivities. I don't really trust an asian clone manufacturer to be aware of the subtleties that make for ballistic grade eyewear. It would be important for them to run rigourous QC/QA to assure that their products met impact and aging standards and I'm not sure that they would run a quality program.

On the other hand, I would trust JT in their pball eyewear. Their product is designed to take repeated impacts on a pball field. I think JT does it's own battery of QA/QC to make sure that their products are up to snuff.

There is a small gap around the bottom and top of the Bolle T800's. It is probably possible to shoot bbs through the gap (they'd flex the frame and lense to do so), but the required angle is quite difficult to hit. I would guess that any pellet that could get through would not have the required angle to strike the eye.

Raw Deal · April 18th, 2006, 00:58

Bolles need to fit your face properly. You must see if they are compatible with your facial structure before you use them for airsoft.I have heard similar things about wiley goggles also.The incident at TTAC3 was the product of ill fitting goggles, check first then purchase.

FOX_111 · April 18th, 2006, 01:23

The gap between the lense and frame is too small for a BB to pass. Never seen one pass myself.

The X800T and T800 are the same as far as I know. Maybe they changed the appellation.

If the Bollé logo is on the bottom part of the lense, good chance it's the real one. The copy knockoff don't have the logo.

MadMax · April 18th, 2006, 01:28

Well, I can push a bb through without much force at all. However, the angle is a wierd one to get shot at. It also doesn't look like it could intersect the eye.

Only way I could see getting a shot through the gap is to be laying prone, looking down (maybe counting ants) while taking fire. You could also get hit from above (say 2nd storey) straight down, but I think the pellet would end up sitting at the bottom of the frame.

Ghost Snake · April 18th, 2006, 05:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111

If the Bollé logo is on the bottom part of the lense, good chance it's the real one. The copy knockoff don't have the logo.

Unfortunately, that means nothing. Just look at all the Oakley knock offs. Most of them have the "O" and say Oakley. Not sure where they're made, but I've seen them in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico. And China has incredibly lax copyright laws, so it could very easily be a knock off.

Greylocks · April 18th, 2006, 07:16

If you ask about the risk of a BB going inside the goggles at enough speed to cause damage, then yes it can happen. The risk exists.
Why? Because not everyone has, as said, the right facial structure. Others dont know how to fit them well.
Just for that risk, they are not allowed everywhere.
My own call? I prefer no risks when it comes to my eyes.

FOX_111 · April 18th, 2006, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Snake

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111

If the Bollé logo is on the bottom part of the lense, good chance it's the real one. The copy knockoff don't have the logo.

Unfortunately, that means nothing. Just look at all the Oakley knock offs. Most of them have the "O" and say Oakley. Not sure where they're made, but I've seen them in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico. And China has incredibly lax copyright laws, so it could very easily be a knock off.

I know it does not mean anything. But as far as I saw, the replica lenses don't have the Bollé Logo.

The best advise would be to buy the real thing from a legit retailler.
They are priced at around 100$
If they are 50$, questions should arise.

Trader rating · April 18th, 2006, 10:57

without question the best goggles I have used.
Every other goggles fogs like crazy for me, the T800...not one bit.

CDN_Stalker · April 18th, 2006, 12:22

The gap between the lense and frame is only about 2mm, if that, so getting a BB in there shouldn't be a big worry for you. Like Droc, I put on anti-fog (just in case) and don't have fogging issues with my 800s, only have sweat running down the lense sometimes which fogs it (but I wear a boonie all the time, so flipping the brim up helps clear it. Best I've found is to wear a bandana or headband, put it on the eyebrows, then goggles over top of that. Never have any problems when I do that.

Greylocks · April 18th, 2006, 15:57

It really is your choice after all; you decide if the risk (minimal or not) is fine with you. Then you check if the local fields accept them. And last you decide to spend cash or not.
The ultimate in no-risk is a decent paintball mask, and those are good everywhere.

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April 18th, 2006, 00:29	#1
Chingyul Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta	Bolle T800 Question Few quick questions about the Bolle's. Exactly how much space is between the lens and the frame? Would these be considered sealed in the airsoft sense (unlike shooting glasses), where a bb would be able to fit through the gaps.? Last thing. Is there any difference between the T-800 that is usually mentioned, versus the X800T that seems to get mentioned when related to airsoft (usually asian sites). T-800 X800T They sure do look the same, but wondering why the X800T is tied more to asian airsoft/paintball and the T-800 to field/real operator use. Oh. Comfort of these versus ESS Profile NVGs. I've been debating over these 2. I think someone said they had troubles with the ESS with an asian/chinese nose. __________________ Archived Buy/Sell Rating

April 18th, 2006, 00:34	#2
DuffMan Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	I'd assume that the X800 is a knock-off? As for the gaps, there have been a couple cases (I recall one at TTAC) where a BB got in and rolled its way around the inside of the frame. No harm done. __________________ "He resisted. I asked him to comply." "Telling him to 'eat it, bitch' is not really a request."

April 18th, 2006, 00:51	#3
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	I'm not sure I'd trust the Asian remake of the T-800. Polycarbonate comes in many grades with properties such as UV or solvent resistance or sensitivities. I don't really trust an asian clone manufacturer to be aware of the subtleties that make for ballistic grade eyewear. It would be important for them to run rigourous QC/QA to assure that their products met impact and aging standards and I'm not sure that they would run a quality program. On the other hand, I would trust JT in their pball eyewear. Their product is designed to take repeated impacts on a pball field. I think JT does it's own battery of QA/QC to make sure that their products are up to snuff. There is a small gap around the bottom and top of the Bolle T800's. It is probably possible to shoot bbs through the gap (they'd flex the frame and lense to do so), but the required angle is quite difficult to hit. I would guess that any pellet that could get through would not have the required angle to strike the eye. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

April 18th, 2006, 00:58	#4
Raw Deal Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Taranna	Bolles need to fit your face properly. You must see if they are compatible with your facial structure before you use them for airsoft.I have heard similar things about wiley goggles also.The incident at TTAC3 was the product of ill fitting goggles, check first then purchase. __________________ Gary Paul Johnston: on selecting a new MEU (SOC) 1911 pistol-Whatever happens,there's no doubt that a "few good men" will once again carry the finest combat pistol in the world and we can only pray that a lot of bad men will regret it. Coyote tan is the new black...

April 18th, 2006, 01:23	#5
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	The gap between the lense and frame is too small for a BB to pass. Never seen one pass myself. The X800T and T800 are the same as far as I know. Maybe they changed the appellation. If the Bollé logo is on the bottom part of the lense, good chance it's the real one. The copy knockoff don't have the logo. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

April 18th, 2006, 01:28	#6
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	Well, I can push a bb through without much force at all. However, the angle is a wierd one to get shot at. It also doesn't look like it could intersect the eye. Only way I could see getting a shot through the gap is to be laying prone, looking down (maybe counting ants) while taking fire. You could also get hit from above (say 2nd storey) straight down, but I think the pellet would end up sitting at the bottom of the frame. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

April 18th, 2006, 07:16	#8
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	If you ask about the risk of a BB going inside the goggles at enough speed to cause damage, then yes it can happen. The risk exists. Why? Because not everyone has, as said, the right facial structure. Others dont know how to fit them well. Just for that risk, they are not allowed everywhere. My own call? I prefer no risks when it comes to my eyes.

April 18th, 2006, 10:57	#10
Droc Guest Trader rating	without question the best goggles I have used. Every other goggles fogs like crazy for me, the T800...not one bit.

April 18th, 2006, 12:22	#11
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	The gap between the lense and frame is only about 2mm, if that, so getting a BB in there shouldn't be a big worry for you. Like Droc, I put on anti-fog (just in case) and don't have fogging issues with my 800s, only have sweat running down the lense sometimes which fogs it (but I wear a boonie all the time, so flipping the brim up helps clear it. Best I've found is to wear a bandana or headband, put it on the eyebrows, then goggles over top of that. Never have any problems when I do that. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

April 18th, 2006, 15:57	#12
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	It really is your choice after all; you decide if the risk (minimal or not) is fine with you. Then you check if the local fields accept them. And last you decide to spend cash or not. The ultimate in no-risk is a decent paintball mask, and those are good everywhere.

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