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Old June 17th, 2012, 17:09   #1
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Question Whats the difference?

I've done some research regarding the Umarex H&K MP5a4 and the G&G MP5A4 MAX (I plan on getting one in the future). And i've concluded that they both are manufactured by G&G but have significant price differences G&G Max- $469 and Umarex-$379. The G&G comes with a claw mount, battery and charger, glasses, hi-cap mag, cleaning /unjamming rod, manual, downgrade spring (M100) and the gun while the Umarex comes with hi-cap mag, gun unjamming rod/cleaning rod and a manual. Is there any other differences besides trademarks and lack of items in the box? Are the internals the same (Toptech) or does the Umarex have internals of inferior quality compared to the MAX version? Umarex has a velocity of 366-400 fps and the MAX version has a velocity of 430+. i know Umarex has pneumatic blowback and the Max version has no blowback. Is there any other key differences? Which do think is worth the buy? Thanks for your input

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Old June 17th, 2012, 17:43   #2
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My bet is probably the H&K MP5 but the problem is it has blowback, it's nice but it might lead to future complication.

The Top tech mp5a4 has solid internals, but cost to much, I'm not sure about the trades but if they do the Umarex might have one.

Look for a couple of reviews and see how it goes, maybe wait for a while, maybe in the near future you might change your mind into getting something else like a king arms m4 or classic army and or G&G, King arms m4 is really good, prices are very low.

Do more research and remember don't spend your price range all in the gun make sure you have a couple extra space for the things you need like mags, batterys & charger, vest, mask.

Check out hobbyking.com for batterys and charger, I would recommend getting a nano-tech 7.4v and a Imax b6-Ac or Imax b6... Not the CHINA FAKES!
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Old June 17th, 2012, 17:46   #3
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Before answering your question on the differences, I can personally attest to the Umarex version being easily one of the most impressive examples of build quality, both internally and externally, that I have seen in any AEG.

Although I have only personally inspected the insides of the Umarex version, I have seen the G&G versions out and about at games. There are several differences I can speak to.

Firstly, one very big difference between the two rifles is that the Umarex version includes pneumatic blowback, where as the "MAX" does not. The blowback on this rifle works and it works very well. It is also very easy to disable if you ever become tired of it -- simply swap out the cylinder, and the air normally pumped into the pneumatic blowback assembly is instead fired out of the air seal nozzle, giving you a mild boost in power.

Secondly, some Umarex stock in Canada is now sold with a game-friendly spring. I can see some in stock right now that are sold at 370fps. The advantage with these is that they haven't gone through any kind of two-stage export process for export to Canada -- they are straight-up "as intended". A simpler export process with fewer steps is always good. This both lowers the cost and increases the likeliness that you won't be dealing with issues from the much higher-powered spring included in the MAX.

Thirdly, the Umarex version is imported from the United States and there is a well-publicized process whereby Umarex is applying extra quality control well above and beyond what you get from the Taiwan-exported product from G&G. The main reason behind this is that Umarex USA has begun to offer 1 year warranties -- an unprecedented move in the airsoft industry. Offering these warranties has required them to be more careful with what they sell.

Fourth, I can't tell you what the internals of the MAX are like, but I can attest that the internals of the Umarex version are absolutely superb. Fit, finish, and cleanliness is excellent. The motor has good torque and the trigger response with a small 7.4V LiPo is very snappy. I'm looking forward to updating my "Tac" (folding stock) version to a full-stock version so I can feed it using a much larger-sized LiPo. Also, the stock hopup on the Umarex version is surprisingly badass for out-of-the-box performance.

For those reasons, as well as my familiarity with the product, I personally strongly recommend the Umarex version. With the difference in price you can go and find yourself a decent 7.4 LiPo and charger for this gun. The glasses and claw-mount aren't worth the extra price.

I also suggest against supporting the major importer associated with the MAX series in Canada. They're charging too much anyway.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 17:47   #4
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Check out hobbyking.com for batterys and charger, I would recommend getting a nano-tech 7.4v and a Imax b6-Ac or Imax b6... Not the CHINA FAKES!
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Get the Umarex version and with the money you saved, follow the above advice.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 18:11   #5
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I have a question regarding batteries, im not too familiar with lipos I know theres a thread regarding it, but wouldn't a 9.6 large be good for the mp5a4? why would a lipo be good in this case? A huge thank you for the replies and info!

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Old June 17th, 2012, 18:15   #6
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I have a question regarding batteries, im not too familiar with lipos I know theres a thread regarding it, but wouldn't a 9.6 large be good for the mp5a4? why would a lipo be good in this case? A huge thank you for the replies and info!

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A 9.6 would be fine as long as it fits in the full stock. It should, full stocks have a lot of room.
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Old June 18th, 2012, 01:30   #7
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lipos are smaller and can give more time playing, lipos are way cheaper too, there are always pros and cons of lipos & NiCh batterys
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Old June 18th, 2012, 07:57   #8
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Any one found a lipo that fits in the mp5k?
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