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Old August 21st, 2010, 04:06   #1
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ACOG or Holo

So I was looking to get a G&G M4 Carbine, and I've been having trouble deciding to get either an ACOG or Holo sight.

I'm mainly concered about light hitting the holo and someone seeing the flash. As at Bigfoot (the place I played last) I heard a couple people talking about how they could see the reflection off my team mates red dot/holo sight. Now the ACOG I've been looking at won't have any magnification, mainly cause I'm too poor to buy one with any. And I know I can get a killflash for the ACOG for only like $10-15 so that's not much of a problem.

What I'm wondering is, how much does a killflash inhibit my ability to see through the ACOG. And how bad is the reflection off the holo, or is there none due to a specific coating on the lens?

And personal opinion wise, which do you think looks better? the ACOG or Holo?
Since there's not going to be any magnification on the ACOG, the choice comes down to the flare, usability and how sexy it makes the gun look

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thanks for your time everyone!
Kevin
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Old August 21st, 2010, 04:10   #2
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So I was looking to get a G&G M4 Carbine, and I've been having trouble deciding to get either an ACOG or Holo sight.

I'm mainly concered about light hitting the holo and someone seeing the flash. As at Bigfoot (the place I played last) I heard a couple people talking about how they could see the reflection off my team mates red dot/holo sight. Now the ACOG I've been looking at won't have any magnification, mainly cause I'm too poor to buy one with any. And I know I can get a killflash for the ACOG for only like $10-15 so that's not much of a problem.

What I'm wondering is, how much does a killflash inhibit my ability to see through the ACOG. And how bad is the reflection off the holo, or is there none due to a specific coating on the lens?

And personal opinion wise, which do you think looks better? the ACOG or Holo?
Since there's not going to be any magnification on the ACOG, the choice comes down to the flare, usability and how sexy it makes the gun look

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thanks for your time everyone!
Kevin
Its almost a rule of life as is gravity etc, if it has a reflective surface (glass/plexiglass) it will give off a certain sheen or reflection when light hits it, ultimately it comes down to whatever your personal choice is, its your gun, your gear, your money, your style. BUT in my opinion HOLO sights like an EO-tech look much nicer than a Trijicon or Aimpoint style acog.

EDIT: Wow I must need some sleep, have of what I said is irrelevant. The guy below me is 100% right. But the killflash's ive seen arent cheap $30-200.

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Old August 21st, 2010, 05:36   #3
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ARD's (At least real ones) for real Aimpoint, Trijicon or Elcan products do not hinder performance at all.

When the ARD (Killflash) is placed correctly against the scope lense, you will not see the honeycomb. Acog ARD's (TA57) from Tenebraex are designed to work with a 4x optic. The honeycomb is quite thick, and on a 1x replica optic, I would imagine you would see some level of "tinting"

That being said... Aimpoint ARD's are a nice thin filter designed for the 1x optic. So if you wanted to go the unmagnified optic path, with high visibility while using an ARD. That would be my recommendation considering your budget

Examples below:


AIMPOINT Killflash Filter



ACOG Killflash


ACOG Model TA57 Killflash

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Old August 21st, 2010, 20:45   #4
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Nice, thanks for your help c3sk I really appreciate it
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